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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 12:34 AM
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I dont know if i like it or not, looks like some hard work was put into it, what do you call that color?

It can be yours,

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/la...009535942.html
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Looks like some sort of candy paint job. Almost chrome looking. I like it.
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I think it is one of those plastic-dip paints. Noce work, not my cup of tea, but looks nce.
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The front flares are beautiful, but I don't like anything from the cowl area back.
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The time and effort that went into it, molding the flares into the 80 bumper, took so much work not to crack or ghost, parts have to become one,
I know what i dont really like about it now, the scallop on the door and no hood treatment, this car needs a one off hood
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 02:25 PM
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I kind of like it...
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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The front is ok, but i dont loke the back... Yesterday somebody posted a can am front with L88 flares in the back, that Kind of looked pretty cool and I havent seen that before... Seems like the "Tuerlinx" L88 also has a Can Am front with L88 flares... I think it Looks
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex66
The front is ok, but i dont loke the back... Yesterday somebody posted a can am front with L88 flares in the back, that Kind of looked pretty cool and I havent seen that before... Seems like the "Tuerlinx" L88 also has a Can Am front with L88 flares... I think it Looks
Steersdad, over in for sale has a one piece street can am nose, cheap too, and i posted a pic and i believe someone else did also of the idea to run that clip on the front with l88 flares on the back,
The trend right now is l88 flares, im on that train with my 69, but i also like different, and not have a cookie cutter car.

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Now 100.00, heck you cant beat that for shop art....wish he was closer

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c3-parts-for-sale-wanted/3925550-can-am-front-clip.html
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Originally Posted by The13Bats
Now 100.00, heck you cant beat that for shop art....wish he was closer

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ront-clip.html

Wow, cant beat that one!


It makes the car from the front real brutal. Just like the Road Racing BMW 3.0 CSL, and Ford Capri's, Porsche RSR in the 70's on the European Race Tracks!!! I LOVE it, but thats what I grew up with having the "Hockenheim" Race Track only 20 min from our house when I was a kid.

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Originally Posted by The13Bats
Steersdad, over in for sale has a one piece street can am nose, cheap too, and i posted a pic and i believe someone else did also of the idea to run that clip on the front with l88 flares on the back,
The trebd right now is l88 flares, im on that train with my 69, but i also like different, and not have a cookie cutter car.

the Greenwood style widebody rear flares were never legal in SCCA production racing so with a Corvette in A/P or B/P (until A/P went away) you had your choice of L-88 flares all around or L-88 flares in the back with the Greenwood style widebody in the front.
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Originally Posted by redvetracr
the Greenwood style widebody rear flares were never legal in SCCA production racing so with a Corvette in A/P or B/P (until A/P went away) you had your choice of L-88 flares all around or L-88 flares in the back with the Greenwood style widebody in the front.
Thanks howard,
Its nice to have a real racer fellow here to clue me in, that type info is priceless to me.
So this info makes this look even cooler for a tribute racer build
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Originally Posted by redvetracr
the Greenwood style widebody rear flares were never legal in SCCA production racing so with a Corvette in A/P or B/P (until A/P went away) you had your choice of L-88 flares all around or L-88 flares in the back with the Greenwood style widebody in the front.
It wasn't just the rules in A and B Production, but GT-1 also. It all had to do with the SCCA's rules allowing flares, as long as they retained the stock fender shape.

We built this car in 81 for GT-1. It was typical of all of the Corvettes running in GT-1 back then, Greenwood wide body front, ZL-1/L-88 flares in back. A year or so after we built this car, the rules were changed to allow the full wide body in both Trans-Am and GT-1.

I hated the look back then, but I've really grown to like it, over the years.



Here are a couple more BP and GT-1 cars with the same look, from the late 70's- early 80's.

Ed Lowther



Alan Anderson



John Orr

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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 04:48 PM
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there was no A/P after (I believe) 77 or 78, GT-1 took over for B/P after the 1981 race season there no longer was a B/P class
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Just to clarify, in the custom world ZL1 and L88 flares,are not the same, ZL1 is the name ralph eckler stuck on the so called mud flap flares, which are on very few track cars.

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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by redvetracr
there was no A/P after (I believe) 77 or 78, GT-1 took over for B/P after the 1981 race season there no longer was a B/P class
I forget now exactly when all the classes changed/merged/reclassified, it has been 40 years now. For about 5 years there, the rules seemed to be in a constant state of flux. It was tough to keep up with all the changes taking place.

I remember AP cars had the choice of replacing their big blocks with small blocks, or moving to A Sports Racer. Neither were great choices as it wasn't cheap to build all new small blocks for BP, and it wasn't fun racing against old Can-Am cars, in ASR!

Shortly after we built out GT-1 car, was when they first allowed the "Greenwood" type, wide body rear quarters in Trans-Am and GT-1. This was around 83, and was at the same time they allowed tube frame cars into TA and GT-1. We thought about adding Greenwood rear quarters to our car, and widening the rear track, but decided to sell it instead and built a tube frame Camaro. It was the smart move. By 85, the old full frame cars just couldn't compete with the new tube frame cars.
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Gbvette,
Some sweet cars and history, which ones did you drive at races?
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Looks like he grafted on a C5 kit, something like this:
https://www.caravaggiocorvettes.com/c5-widebody-2
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Originally Posted by The13Bats
The time and effort that went into it, molding the flares into the 80 bumper, took so much work not to crack or ghost, parts have to become one,
I know what I don't really like about it now, the scallop on the door and no hood treatment, this car needs a one off hood
IMCO it could have looked so much better if the door flare/vent (brake cooling scoop?) was not round and matched the design of the front fender vent behind the wheel opening. The same with the scoop behind the rear wheel opening. Too many geometric designs going on. Though went into this but it might have been a good idea to get a designer artist rendering 1st. I'm ok with the hood but agree it could have been so much more (could have matched the style of the side scoops?) and I'll call the color "dark steel blue".
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Originally Posted by The13Bats
Gbvette,
Some sweet cars and history, which ones did you drive at races?
I didn't drive any of them. I helped build the white number 70, and kept it running and on track.

The owner of it also had an 83 Trans-Am, that his wife drove in SCCA Showroom Stock class races, and I used for an SCCA driving school. Before I could complete the requirements for an SCCA competition license, Jerry decided to go professional and move up to Trans-Am, and my wife became pregnant. Between a full time job, weekends and evenings building and working on race cars, and the new baby, I never did get around to getting my competition license.

I have no complaints though. I was on pit road for Trans-Am races all over the country. I got to see Formula 1 and Indycar races, because we were a support race for the F1 Grand Prix, when it ran on the streets of Detroit, and the CART Indycar races in Long Beach and the Meadowlands. I was part of IMSA Camel GT races at a number of tracks. I got to meet and know a lot of racers, including Paul Newman and John Oates (of Hall and Oates). In 1989, I even got to crew for a Corvette Challenge car. For the last 10 years, I've been crewing for a Corvette vintage racer, allowing me to get to even more tracks, and become friends with even more racers.

Other than some autocrossing, I never got to race, but I can't complain. I actually think I've been pretty lucky, and had a pretty good life!
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