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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 09:48 AM
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What type of fuel additive do most of you use on your pre-cat cars. I use a lead replacement and a fuel stabilizer since my car sits up a lot.

I need to buy some more soon and I am wondering what is the best products.

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I don't use anything. The 93 oct that I use is bought from various locations, Krogers, Buc-ee's, QT, etc.. It might sit a month or so in the winter between drives, haven't had a problem.
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I use a combination of Sunoco 110 octane leaded racing fuel (5 gallons) with 10 gallons of 93 octane ethanol free premium gas. The 454 loves the combination. I also use Classic Car Motor Oil formulated for flat tappet cams. http://www.classiccarmotoroil.com/

Any gasoline with ethanol will erode all of the seals in a carburetor over time.
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What type of fuel additive do most of you use on your pre-cat cars. I use a lead replacement and a fuel stabilizer since my car sits up a lot.

I need to buy some more soon and I am wondering what is the best products.
Just 93 octane gas - probably less because 10% ethanol is required in the county I live in.

I add about 1/3 of a can of Sea Foam to each full tank.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:43 AM
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What type of fuel additive do most of you use on your pre-cat cars. I use a lead replacement and a fuel stabilizer since my car sits up a lot.

I need to buy some more soon and I am wondering what is the best products.
I don't use anything. What makes you think you need it?
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:55 AM
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Because the car was designed to run on leaded gasoline. I expected it needed a lead replacement.

Is this wrong?

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I don't use anything. What makes you think you need it?
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Because the car was designed to run on leaded gasoline. I expected it needed a lead replacement.

Is this wrong?
If the engine were in a dump truck it might need it. Engines that are constantly under a severe load and are lugged down will suffer from valve recession because of no lead. Car engines don't have this problem.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 11:16 AM
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If the engine were in a dump truck it might need it. Engines that are constantly under a severe load and are lugged down will suffer from valve recession because of no lead. Car engines don't have this problem.
Lead was originally an octane booster only. Any "benefit" was accidental.
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I only use ethanol free gas in my '71 LS5 and all of my lawn equipment, pressure washer, etc. The Corvette is a storage tank for the ethanol free gas, I siphon some out for the lawn equipment as needed.
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I only use ethanol free gas in my '71 LS5 and all of my lawn equipment, pressure washer, etc. The Corvette is a storage tank for the ethanol free gas, I siphon some out for the lawn equipment as needed.
This gave me a chuckle. I've had a running debate with a friend for many years over ethanol. He goes out of the county to buy non-ethanol gas for his motorcycle, mowers etc. I don't.

Zero difference after I don't remember how many years in terms of maintenance, longevity etc. I think 10% ethanol reduces fuel economy slightly - that E85 stuff gives us terrible mileage in flex-fuel vehicles - but it hasn't caused any other issues.
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Originally Posted by crawfish333
What type of fuel additive do most of you use on your pre-cat cars. I use a lead replacement and a fuel stabilizer since my car sits up a lot.

I need to buy some more soon and I am wondering what is the best products.
Your profile says you have a 1972 which was designed for low lead/nolead to start with. You dont need anything.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:22 PM
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There was no catalytic converter on a 1972, therefore I assume it was originally intended to run on leaded gasoline.

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Your profile says you have a 1972 which was designed for low lead/nolead to start with. You dont need anything.
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
Lead was originally an octane booster only. Any "benefit" was accidental.
Not disagreeing with you, I have herd the same, but one of the engine shops would come over for our leaded AV-gas. He said that in a seminar they advised the use of leaded fuel on newly ground heads. They said the lead would impregnate into the cast iron on the older heads.

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I agree with bashcraft, the only application I have ever seen much trouble with valve seat recession is in heavy applications like trucks or old RV's hauling trailers. Just not enough load and heat to cause it on Corvette's.

As far as ethanol goes, we have had ethanol gas up here in this part of the country for over 30 years. I have run it in everything I have owned in that time. Classic cars and motorcycles, lawn mowers, weed wackers, chainsaws, you name it. I store my cars over our long winters with the tank full and a can of seafoam in them. Never any problems in those 30 plus years.

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Originally Posted by crawfish333
There was no catalytic converter on a 1972, therefore I assume it was originally intended to run on leaded gasoline.
GM dropped the compression on all it's engines in 1971 in anticipation of low lead/nolead and started using hardened valve seats. You dont need a lead additive for your car.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:36 PM
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Thank for all of the responses. From now on, I will just use premium unleaded in the Corvette, well after I finish off the lead substitute I still have. (so I won't have to dispose of it)

I did some other research and found that beginning in 1971, the valves on cars were hardened to allow for the use of unleaded fuel even though leaded gasoline was still available. This is good to know because it is a hassle using these additives.
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Well, I don't get to my valve machine much any more but I have yet to see a hardened seat or valve from the factory. Lets say 80's back.

True? maybe not , but the service manager (in 1971) told us when we complained that the factory was installing truck engines in cars because of the dished pistons that were used in trucks, "that's the new smog law".

Now they are talking about removing all the lead in Av-gas to clean up the air!! These are low HP, low compression, low RPM engines.
I guess it's who you talk to.

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I store my cars over our long winters with the tank full and a can of seafoam in them. Never any problems in those 30 plus years.Mike
You and I are on the same page - winter storage, etc.. Good stuff that SeaFoam.

I don't normally use it (or anything else) as a regular additive but have been running it through the 'vette because it had been sitting a long time. It's helped noticeably.
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