64 pontivette... Banshee
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64 pontivette... Banshee
Previous C3 owner now hang out C6 section. I ran across this and thought to show how GM designs get around.
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...e/1571619.html
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...e/1571619.html
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Previous C3 owner now hang out C6 section. I ran across this and thought to show how GM designs get around.
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...e/1571619.html
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...e/1571619.html
I find it weird that the seller misspells John Z DeLorean's name on one of the photos. However, it is spelled correctly in the text of the advert.
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Interesting.....I remember the car, but didn't realize that it was actually a driveable prototype, as well as not either residing in the GM Heritage Center, or getting crushed 40 years ago.
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You probably owned one and it probably was a "nice ride". I'm talking about style here. I had Pontiacs in the deLorean era, a big *** Bonneville and two GTO's. IMHO, the 67 GTO was the high-water mark for the brand at that time. Some of the Firebirds are probably next but deLorean had moved on.
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You probably owned one and it probably was a "nice ride". I'm talking about style here. I had Pontiacs in the deLorean era, a big *** Bonneville and two GTO's. IMHO, the 67 GTO was the high-water mark for the brand at that time. Some of the Firebirds are probably next but deLorean had moved on.
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I like the Goats, but I would hardly call them a design highwater. After ll, the "design" was for the Lemans, which was a medium size 2 door family car. The GTO added the 389, badging and maybe some suspention upgrades (not sure about that one) but was bacially the same car.
You probably owned one and it probably was a "nice ride". I'm talking about style here. I had Pontiacs in the deLorean era, a big *** Bonneville and two GTO's. IMHO, the 67 GTO was the high-water mark for the brand at that time. Some of the Firebirds are probably next but deLorean had moved on.
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I like the Goats, but I would hardly call them a design highwater. After ll, the "design" was for the Lemans, which was a medium size 2 door family car. The GTO added the 389, badging and maybe some suspention upgrades (not sure about that one) but was bacially the same car.
Delorean saw the Mustang coming, and begged GM to do something to compete with it, but they kept blowing it off. He finally asked to put the Bonneville engine in the Lemans, and they agreed. That was supposedly the birth of the GTO.
Pontiac was big into racing at the time, but they were more focused on the bigger framed cars... Grand Prix, Catalina, Bonneville, with the bigger 421.
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How about you post a picture of the Fiero GT instead? That's the really good looking one.
And the GTO on the bottom? Sorry, that's an ugly car to me.
And the GTO on the bottom? Sorry, that's an ugly car to me.
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And THAT exemplifies part of what was wrong with GM back then. They'd "parts bin" a car together, like the Fiero, to test the waters. Then, if it generated some interest, and sold some units, THEN they'd devote some engineering time and money, to make it what it should have been, in the first place.....
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Right leadfoot4. I read a magazine article about the Fiero GT with the V6 5 speed and they said (and many agree) "Very unfortunately just when they got it right they decided to stop making it"
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The very first picture I posted was of the Fiero GT. Go back and look again.
The GTO and C3 and the Banshee shared a lot of the same design motifs: the kammback, the A-pillar, the B-pillar, the coke bottle 'fuselage', and even the rocker panel. If you go read the Wikipedia entry about the Fiero you can see just how significantly it was compromised.
Back to GM's shared design motifs, here ya go.
