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Old Jan 28, 2018 | 09:07 AM
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On my 1973 454 the clearance between the upper radiator hose and the alternator pulley and the alternator fan blades is so close it eventually touches. I have tried 3 or 4 new OE style hoses but it keeps happening. I have seen other 454's and the hose is really close also. I'm trying to keep the original look but this is an annoying problem. Any suggestions.
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Old Jan 28, 2018 | 06:24 PM
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maybe you need to trim a lil bit more off the radiator end to pull it away from the alternator. Stretching it a litle bit.

It takes a bit of twisting and triming it to get it good.
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Old Jan 28, 2018 | 06:26 PM
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how far out is the alternator maybe a belt a few mm longer may help.
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Old Jan 28, 2018 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NONN37
maybe you need to trim a lil bit more off the radiator end to pull it away from the alternator. Stretching it a litle bit.

It takes a bit of twisting and triming it to get it good.
I have cut the hose on the radiator end like you suggested. Then by twisting it I got enough clearance and was happy until I saw moisture on the middle of the hose a week or two later. I guess I weakened the hose by to much twisting. Getting ready to try again with a new OE hose.
Happened to read an article in a 1969 Road & Track and during there road test of the '69 Corvette big block the same thing happened. The upper hose got grooved by the alternator pulley. Amazing Chevy never thought to correct this problem.
Thank you very much for the suggestion.
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Old Jan 28, 2018 | 10:11 PM
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Take a look at a different brand of hose
These were two on my car, one I believe was a Gates hose from NAPA and the other a "GM" hose from CC

Yes there are other differences (rad and alt) but the shape of the hoses were significantly different

This probably should have had a 1/2" or 1" trimmed from the intake end to pull some of the kink out




Neither actually touched the alt-belt but they are certainly close to the pulley.

I'm currently in the process of changing all of this so I can't reference anything other than these old pics
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Old Jan 28, 2018 | 10:28 PM
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OP. Try a gates 20816.
This is on my 72 BB. A little different alternator bracket set up but tons of room.
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Originally Posted by pmansbach
I have cut the hose on the radiator end like you suggested. Then by twisting it I got enough clearance and was happy until I saw moisture on the middle of the hose a week or two later. I guess I weakened the hose by to much twisting. Getting ready to try again with a new OE hose.
Happened to read an article in a 1969 Road & Track and during there road test of the '69 Corvette big block the same thing happened. The upper hose got grooved by the alternator pulley. Amazing Chevy never thought to correct this problem.
Thank you very much for the suggestion.
Paul
One time I installed a new Gates upper radiator hose on my '71 454, and after a test run the alternator belt/pulley put a groove in my new hose. It turned out that I had a broken engine mount on the drivers side. Replace both engine mounts and no problems since.
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Thats an interesting thought. I will look into that. Thank you very much.
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I know some older hoses were put on backwards, and people wanted to know why they were rubbing.
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Originally Posted by Mooser
Take a look at a different brand of hose
These were two on my car, one I believe was a Gates hose from NAPA and the other a "GM" hose from CC

Yes there are other differences (rad and alt) but the shape of the hoses were significantly different

This probably should have had a 1/2" or 1" trimmed from the intake end to pull some of the kink out




Neither actually touched the alt-belt but they are certainly close to the pulley.

I'm currently in the process of changing all of this so I can't reference anything other than these old pics
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Is the second hose the Gates/NAPA hose? It looks a bit less busy than my present GM hose. I moved the alternator over to the RH side for better weight distribution, and the second picture hose might look a bit more at home in my application.
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Old Jan 29, 2018 | 10:09 PM
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LOL
I'm hoping I still have that hose somewhere around because I need the number from it as well for the same reason you just mentioned, well maybe not for weight distribution but for visual balance and access to the power steering pump



And now I have to find something better than this snake hose



If I find the numbers I'll let you know
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Old Jan 29, 2018 | 10:33 PM
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Amazing......even on my small block I had the same chafing problem.

I finally fabricated a wire bracket to raise the hose one inch above the belt/pulley.
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I got my 72's hose from RICKS CORVETTE , it fit perfectly. Lucky I guess.

The previous hose on my 71 was from AutoZone and did not fit well.
On the 71 I wound up using a different water neck which solved the problem. It's a 2 piece which has an O ring seal. I needed a second tap for the fan sensor anyway.
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Trying not to hijack but since it's still upper rad hoses





Gates



Can't find any references to these numbers at all C11 172S or 1023. Pretty sure I got it at Napa but that was years ago



Can't make these out 7654 but I think it's part of the general "made in Canada, shift etc.<br/>

Might be off a snowmobile or something. I'm still going to look for a better solution but I'm not that far up the engine yet.
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