15" Performance Tires
Le Mans Master
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From: Watkinsville, GA and Glen Cove, NY
The TD-S is actually D.O.T legal it looks like.
http://www.bobwoodmantires.com/road-...dirt-stockers/
http://www.bobwoodmantires.com/road-...dirt-stockers/
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Drifting
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The TD-S is actually D.O.T legal it looks like.
http://www.bobwoodmantires.com/road-...dirt-stockers/
http://www.bobwoodmantires.com/road-...dirt-stockers/
Melting Slicks
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my bad. I looked up these: https://www.hoosiermidatlantic.com/p...m?InvKey=30498 and saw this: WARNING: D.O.T. labeled Hoosier Racing Tires meet Department of Transportation requirements for marking and performance only and are NOT INTENDED FOR HIGHWAY USE. It is unsafe to operate any Hoosier Racing Tire including DOT tires on public roads. The prohibited use of Hoosier Racing Tires on public roadways may result in loss of traction, unexpected loss of vehicle control, or sudden loss of tire pressure, resulting in a vehicle crash and possible injury or death
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Le Mans Master
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Gotcha, but I would think as long as you had the D.O.T. labeling there you are ok legally. If you read the Cobra forums, a ton of those guys run the Goodyear Billboards on the street and they love them. And they are bias ply as well, but not DOT legal. I am like you, I would not run a non DOT legal tire either. That’s why i am running the Avon’s. Yes they are expensive, but not so bad when you factor in the cost of new wheels to get the more widely available high performance tires in 18 and 19 inch sizes.
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Le Mans Master
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Here are a couple pictures of the Avon. This is a 275 55 15 which I am running on the back. It is 26.95 inches in diameter. Kind of the vintage race look tread pattern. Guys are getting 10000 miles out of them on the Cobra forums. I may even put a Goodyear stencil on them but don’t tell lol. These are DOT legal radials and man are they sticky.
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my bad. I looked up these: https://www.hoosiermidatlantic.com/p...m?InvKey=30498 and saw this: WARNING: D.O.T. labeled Hoosier Racing Tires meet Department of Transportation requirements for marking and performance only and are NOT INTENDED FOR HIGHWAY USE. It is unsafe to operate any Hoosier Racing Tire including DOT tires on public roads. The prohibited use of Hoosier Racing Tires on public roadways may result in loss of traction, unexpected loss of vehicle control, or sudden loss of tire pressure, resulting in a vehicle crash and possible injury or death
Years ago, in an effort to keep oval track costs relatively low, promoters and sanctioning organizations came up with the "DOT legal tire rule", HOPING that it would restrict the racers to a low cost, relatively hard compound, street legal tire. Their intent was twofold: A) inexpensive, longer lasting tires; and B) with a tire of limited traction, exotic engines weren't necessary. In response to the racer's pleas, racing tire company Hoosier started making a "DOT legal" (wink, wink) tire. What it has, is a street style tread pattern, with a fairly soft rubber compound (but not as soft as a true race tire), and more importantly, NO impact resistance built into the carcass, to protect the tire from being damaged by debris on the road, like a street tire has.
Melting Slicks
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To add to leadfoot's comment, just because it says DOT with a number, does not make it a street legal tire. The sidewall probably also has "not intended for street use" or "for racing purposes only". A Hoosier A8 is labeled DOT but I wouldn't use it on the street.
Burning Brakes
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... Here are a couple pictures of the Avon. This is a 275 55 15 which I am running on the back. It is 26.95 inches in diameter. Kind of the vintage race look tread pattern. Guys are getting 10000 miles out of them on the Cobra forums. ...
FYI, an Avon salesman also told me not to keep them longer than 6 years from their purchase date.
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Melting Slicks
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Fine by me and the only v-rated tire I could find easily and locally. Domestic manufacturers have had decades to provide an alternative and they have not.
If they blow up, or whatnot, I'll report it. Don't really see how they could be any worse than those crappy S-rated, and T-rated garbage 15s otherwise available. On my pickup I've been buying the cheapest tires for decades and they last just fine.
If they blow up, or whatnot, I'll report it. Don't really see how they could be any worse than those crappy S-rated, and T-rated garbage 15s otherwise available. On my pickup I've been buying the cheapest tires for decades and they last just fine.
Le Mans Master
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About the same. I took a 120 mile drive today, all freeway, but they ride smooth. The pressure on the sidewall is for 44 psig, I run them at 40 psig. My BF Goodrich tires in the back I run 35 per sidewall. I'll probably replace the rears early next year, but just because they're old... they still look good.
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About the same. I took a 120 mile drive today, all freeway, but they ride smooth. The pressure on the sidewall is for 44 psig, I run them at 40 psig. My BF Goodrich tires in the back I run 35 per sidewall. I'll probably replace the rears early next year, but just because they're old... they still look good.
Racer
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From: Indianapolis IN
I have raced for 20 years on Hoosier Street TDs. Incredible race tire for driving at the edge of adhesion. But I wouldn’t use them on a street car.
1. Harsh ride. I want feel every part of the track, but not every tar strip on the road.
2. Not very puncture resistant.
3. Need to be warmed up to stick. If you get it on before they are warm, fair chance you’ll find yourself in the weeds.
4. Terrible even if a tiny bit damp unless really heated up, and even then iffy.
Just my two cents,
Marc in Indy
79 Honda Civic SCCA GT5, now vintage race car
1. Harsh ride. I want feel every part of the track, but not every tar strip on the road.
2. Not very puncture resistant.
3. Need to be warmed up to stick. If you get it on before they are warm, fair chance you’ll find yourself in the weeds.
4. Terrible even if a tiny bit damp unless really heated up, and even then iffy.
Just my two cents,
Marc in Indy
79 Honda Civic SCCA GT5, now vintage race car
Burning Brakes
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Look for the manufacture date on the sidewall of the tire - it's a 4 digit number, the first two digits are the week and the second two digits are the year of manufacture. For instance "2705" means "the 27th week of 2005".
The "rule" is that you should not use tires for more than 6 years (i.e., no longer than 6 years after you install them on your vehicle) nor for any longer than 10 years after the date of manufacture, whichever comes first.
Last edited by VCuomo; Dec 30, 2018 at 02:18 AM.