Anyone market overseas?
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My friend Ron this weekend went to check a 1989 C4 for me. He clearly informed the seller upfront that the buyer ( me ) lives in Europe and was willing to pay via bank transfer if the inspection was to be OK . Seller initially agreed but now suddenly only wants “cash in hand” , which is of course impossible for me.
Some sellers seem to be very scared of doing business with an overseas buyer , although there is no risk for them.
Anyway , sooner or later I find somewhere a nice C4 😉
Some sellers seem to be very scared of doing business with an overseas buyer , although there is no risk for them.
Anyway , sooner or later I find somewhere a nice C4 😉
Cant imagine you would have trouble buying a C4. The most devalued Corvettes of all, very difficult to sell. You should find a great one for short money.
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Not sure what the risk is for the seller. Inspect all you like, when the car is paid for, confirmed by my bank, then it gets shipped. End of story.
Cant imagine you would have trouble buying a C4. The most devalued Corvettes of all, very difficult to sell. You should find a great one for short money.
Cant imagine you would have trouble buying a C4. The most devalued Corvettes of all, very difficult to sell. You should find a great one for short money.
Tax on importcars in Belgium is really high , unless you import a +30 years old car, so I’m looking ideally for a 1989 , manual 6 speed coupe. Having to buy it unseen , is not that easy and you will probably find out ( when you try to sell your Vette in Europe ) that this is a major concern for an overseas buyer.....
Anyway , If you want to sell yours in Europe , let me know as I can advertise it for you here.
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In the early 90s I sold an ‘81 convertible conversion to an Asian guy from DC who apparently was shipping it to Japan. It was in a magazine the month before and sold well. People were more “Japan sensitive” back then and I actually took a bunch of grief from some flag wavers in my Corvette club. Now, while I am a strong US and military supporter and proudly fly my US and Police flags in front of my house, it seems I could not get any of these complainers to cough up the amount of money being paid for this car to allow me to sell it locally.
It seemed quite easy to be cavalier about where a sale was being made when it wasn’t their money.
It seemed quite easy to be cavalier about where a sale was being made when it wasn’t their money.
If I may ask, which military branch ? I was a Marine , mid sixties , infantry, seeing the world, one stop on the east side.
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acquisition costs to get a car from one country to another and put it on the road ( either into or out of the states) are sky high and one would hope to find a buyer that has that extra 10+ grand that it will take to buy a 40 grand car and subsequently pay 50+ grand for a 40 grand car...
that is the issue.. finding a buyer that will do that.
but by marketing to the entire world, you may indeed find that buyer.
that is the issue.. finding a buyer that will do that.
but by marketing to the entire world, you may indeed find that buyer.
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Never figured you for " Banker ". Thought you were an enthusiast like many of us. I know of 7 early examples that will not leave my hands for a port. Not impressed by a " few more dollars ".
If I may ask, which military branch ? I was a Marine , mid sixties , infantry, seeing the world, one stop on the east side.
If I may ask, which military branch ? I was a Marine , mid sixties , infantry, seeing the world, one stop on the east side.
And I know “banker” is your favorite word, although I’ve never understood what it means. Selling an ‘81 to a guy from Japan doesn’t make me less of an enthusiast, nor do I need to explain that decision to anyone.
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Last time I looked, in hits country, you are allowed to dispose of your property any way you want to. I think you still have a right to do that and if I were you I would try to get the most I can for it. If that meant selling it overseas, so be it. (my post above was sarcastic, just in case some of you did not get it!!)
As stated if someone wants it to stay here go ahead and buy it. I can't be more simple then that. With regards to promoting the hobby, expanding its exposure is always a good thing and if that means overseas so be it. I am pretty sure Harley overseas sales is a intricate part of its current survival.
I also agree with above that selling abroad, much like buying a car across the country adds a certain amount of expense that then tends to make a good deal not so. I have been looking for a few months and will only consider a car that's far away if the seller is willing to work with me, the car is unique and is in a good price range. Travel to see it and then transporting it back will add a decent amount to the overall cost so it has to be a consideration. I would imagine that overseas adds an even greater expense to the car but then again, local purchases are probably few.
The only issue I have and I don't want to sidetrack this thread, is people parting out salvageable cars. and restomoding original cars. Why do it, there are plenty of no original cars to mod.
Unless something has changed it yours you payed for it, do with it what you want!!! Ike
As stated if someone wants it to stay here go ahead and buy it. I can't be more simple then that. With regards to promoting the hobby, expanding its exposure is always a good thing and if that means overseas so be it. I am pretty sure Harley overseas sales is a intricate part of its current survival.
I also agree with above that selling abroad, much like buying a car across the country adds a certain amount of expense that then tends to make a good deal not so. I have been looking for a few months and will only consider a car that's far away if the seller is willing to work with me, the car is unique and is in a good price range. Travel to see it and then transporting it back will add a decent amount to the overall cost so it has to be a consideration. I would imagine that overseas adds an even greater expense to the car but then again, local purchases are probably few.
The only issue I have and I don't want to sidetrack this thread, is people parting out salvageable cars. and restomoding original cars. Why do it, there are plenty of no original cars to mod.
Unless something has changed it yours you payed for it, do with it what you want!!! Ike
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C1,,C2 and C3 corvettes is very popular in Scandinavia Here in Sweden you pay about 50-60k for a DECENT 70 LS5 or 427. A small block fetching from 25-40k When it comes to c2 coupes you’ll end up paying about 65k for a unloved survivor... a C1 in good contidtion starts at around 80k
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C1,,C2 and C3 corvettes is very popular in Scandinavia Here in Sweden you pay about 50-60k for a DECENT 70 LS5 or 427. A small block fetching from 25-40k When it comes to c2 coupes you’ll end up paying about 65k for a unloved survivor... a C1 in good contidtion starts at around 80k
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The last picture was taken out of the window of our rental car driving back... this guy had some bizarre bike/living room contraption he drove there, parked by the side of the road in a field and watched all the cars go by, drinking and waving.
Ya gotta go.
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Yes, my wife and I went over to Sweden in 2017 just to see it. It was massive! What a huge collection of US car enthusiasts. They really knew how to enjoy themselves.
The last picture was taken out of the window of our rental car driving back... this guy had some bizarre bike/living room contraption he drove there, parked by the side of the road in a field and watched all the cars go by, drinking and waving.
Ya gotta go.
The last picture was taken out of the window of our rental car driving back... this guy had some bizarre bike/living room contraption he drove there, parked by the side of the road in a field and watched all the cars go by, drinking and waving.
Ya gotta go.
#32
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i just sold my '71 LT-1 to a fellow in Germany. He contacted me through Facebook after seeing some photos of my car on there. Yada yada yada, the car is now on it's way to Germany. Hate to see it leave the country, but U.S. buyers seem more concerned with serial numbers on hose clamps.
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I know several prominent Vette dealers who market overseas - spoke to one who claimed most of his sales were going overseas. That said, seems Europeans and Australians are paying top dollar for driver-quality cars while Americans expect no-excuse perfect cars for a bag of nickels.
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i just sold my '71 LT-1 to a fellow in Germany. He contacted me through Facebook after seeing some photos of my car on there. Yada yada yada, the car is now on it's way to Germany. Hate to see it leave the country, but U.S. buyers seem more concerned with serial numbers on hose clamps.
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i just sold my '71 LT-1 to a fellow in Germany. He contacted me through Facebook after seeing some photos of my car on there. Yada yada yada, the car is now on it's way to Germany. Hate to see it leave the country, but U.S. buyers seem more concerned with serial numbers on hose clamps.
Not sitting around wringing their hands over some useless trivia.
Gas aint cheap over there so they make the most of it.
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At the massive Swedish event I pictured earlier, the vast majority of the cars were set up for driving. Plenty of mods and not crazy about perfect cosmetics either.
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Correct, us Corvette tragics from around the world find it much easier these days with the advent of the internet.
i'm from Australia, and have bought around a dozen vettes in the last ten years:- on this forum, eBay, insurance auction sites, etc.
It is certainly not any harder for a US seller as has already been suggested on this thread. The risk is all the buyers.
i don't believe you need to actively market your car in individual overseas markets. Most buyers are informed these days, and they will
find you with your normal marketing if your car is on the domestic selling sites.
As for commissioned agents, yes, that will help some buyers who are inexperienced or uninformed, but it pushes up costs, and switched on
buyers will usually not use these guys
i'm from Australia, and have bought around a dozen vettes in the last ten years:- on this forum, eBay, insurance auction sites, etc.
It is certainly not any harder for a US seller as has already been suggested on this thread. The risk is all the buyers.
i don't believe you need to actively market your car in individual overseas markets. Most buyers are informed these days, and they will
find you with your normal marketing if your car is on the domestic selling sites.
As for commissioned agents, yes, that will help some buyers who are inexperienced or uninformed, but it pushes up costs, and switched on
buyers will usually not use these guys
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I know several prominent Vette dealers who market overseas - spoke to one who claimed most of his sales were going overseas. That said, seems Europeans and Australians are paying top dollar for driver-quality cars while Americans expect no-excuse perfect cars for a bag of nickels.
Correct, us Corvette tragics from around the world find it much easier these days with the advent of the internet.
i'm from Australia, and have bought around a dozen vettes in the last ten years:- on this forum, eBay, insurance auction sites, etc.
It is certainly not any harder for a US seller as has already been suggested on this thread. The risk is all the buyers.
i don't believe you need to actively market your car in individual overseas markets. Most buyers are informed these days, and they will
find you with your normal marketing if your car is on the domestic selling sites.
As for commissioned agents, yes, that will help some buyers who are inexperienced or uninformed, but it pushes up costs, and switched on
buyers will usually not use these guys
i'm from Australia, and have bought around a dozen vettes in the last ten years:- on this forum, eBay, insurance auction sites, etc.
It is certainly not any harder for a US seller as has already been suggested on this thread. The risk is all the buyers.
i don't believe you need to actively market your car in individual overseas markets. Most buyers are informed these days, and they will
find you with your normal marketing if your car is on the domestic selling sites.
As for commissioned agents, yes, that will help some buyers who are inexperienced or uninformed, but it pushes up costs, and switched on
buyers will usually not use these guys
#39
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Right now market appears pretty soft, and the exchange rate is now not as good as it used to be. Coupled with that, we now have Customs rigidly enforcing the removal of all asbestos from imports.
There have been reports of many cars being completely stripped by customs, and importers getting a pile of parts, instead of a car, and a huge bill:- bloody nightmare.
This is not a problem for most late model vehicles, but it is a huge issue of older classic cars, where asbestos was used in brakes, clutches,head gaskets, bonding compounds, sound deadening, etc.
Needless to say, this is having a severe effect on many people contemplating future imports. Sorry, a bit off topic, but useful information I would have thought.