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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 03:15 PM
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Went for a short drive last Friday.
Went to start car on Saturday. Engine ran for 5 sec, then Clank/Bang/Backfire and engine quit.
Pulled all plugs. Plugs on one side of engine are covered in Coolant.
Oil level is way up the stick.
Drained oil and about a gallon of Coolant came out first then oil. Oil is not muddy.
All original motor so next stop is a shop to see what else they can find.
Not a good couple of days so far.
Gotta wonder if I didn’t drop a valve and/or spin a bearing.
Looks like I might be getting an engine rebuild and she just turned 44 in April.

I kinda wish I would have sold it last summer.


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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KenSny
Went for a short drive last Friday.
Went to start car on Saturday. Engine ran for 5 sec, then Clank/Bang/Backfire and engine quit.
Pulled all plugs. Plugs on one side of engine are covered in Coolant.
Oil level is way up the stick.
Drained oil and about a gallon of Coolant came out first then oil. Oil is not muddy.
All original motor so next stop is a shop to see what else they can find.
Not a good couple of days so far.
Gotta wonder if I didn’t drop a valve and/or spin a bearing.
Looks like I might be getting an engine rebuild and she just turned 44 in April.

I kinda wish I would have sold it last summer.


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Think Crate motor
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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 03:28 PM
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Don't run it any further. Crank may still be good.

5 secs ... so quick, not time for mix ... no mud.

Sounds like something broke through cylinder wall and into water jacket: valve, rod, piston pin.

If ... If a head gasket was leaking coolant into cylinder, it may've quickly hydo-locked, breaking piston, cracking liner etc etc.

sorry for you. Let us know.
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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 03:49 PM
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Think Crate motor
Only as a last resort. Would like to keep the original engine if possible.

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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 03:51 PM
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Don't run it any further. Crank may still be good.

5 secs ... so quick, not time for mix ... no mud.

Sounds like something broke through cylinder wall and into water jacket: valve, rod, piston pin.

If ... If a head gasket was leaking coolant into cylinder, it may've quickly hydo-locked, breaking piston, cracking liner etc etc.

sorry for you. Let us know.

Until it is taken apart I'm thinking dropped valve and CRASH. Maybe only head cracked, but it's very possible cylinder is toast.

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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KenSny
Until it is taken apart I'm thinking dropped valve and CRASH. Maybe only head cracked, but it's very possible cylinder is toast.
For now, I think dropped valve is most likely where it began.
Perhaps cylinder can be sleeved & crank's OK.

Will you tear it down? When?
Good Luck.
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"Gotta wonder if I didn’t drop a valve and/or spin a bearing."

I think you're over thinking here.
I'd be hoping for a blown head gasket dumping coolant past the pistons on one bank.
See any white smoke before she quit? That'd be a tell.

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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 07:50 PM
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clank and bang doesnt sound good. Look for a shop that might be able to sleeve it if possible
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It's interesting that all the plugs on one side are covered with coolant. Normally only one or two cylinders. Possible head gasket, maybe cracked cylinder which can be sleeved . If the engine hydraulicd it could cause noise. I would make sure the rods were checked for being bent. Liquid doesn't compress and somethings got to give which normally is the rods.
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Bad news yes, but think of it as an opportunity to make things better. Time to tear it down and see what broke. Plan for the worst and hope for the best.
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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 10:13 PM
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For sure. even if you have to turn the crank, ect, keep the numbers matching engine
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Should know more nexr week.
Plan is to pull valve cover and see if anything obvious. Then head, then...... I suppose it could be minor, but that is not how things usually happen for me.

I think, just guessing now, that the engine will have to come out and have to be completely checked over by a reliable machine shop.
I just don't see any way of getting this done before fall. Schedules are ALL tight.

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Pull the valve cover on the coolant wet plug side. Look for dropped valves.
Also get a little borescope and go exploring thru those 4 spark plug holes. You may find what you need to know.
If not, that head needs to come off.
By then you should know for sure.
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sounds like a head gasket, or block or head crack. Had similar experience with a '75 convertible. Ended up replacing the engine as the block was damaged. Good luck!
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Whatever goes wrong in a cylinder, gets quickly coughed-up into manifold's plenum, and can get sucked into other cylinders.
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Ken, sorry about the news, Glad you still have the '75 L-82 though, sold mine several yrs ago to a friend. I did happen to replace my tired 147K original mile L-82 engine with that Direct Replacement '73-'87 GM V8 260hp 350 4 bolt main motor. Had a 5yr/50K warranty with it too. Put 19K on it before I had sold the car. Got the motor for $1187, kept the original motor, swapped over starter, alt., water pump, intake, carb, dist., fuel pump, valve covers, pwr str pump. Everything was a direct bolt up too. Enjoyed that motor til I sold the car, then gave the buyer the original engine. Sold car with 169,000mi on it. Ran superb!

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Clean up the original motor and put in a 383 crate, less cost and you still have the original if you ever sell.
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Don't assume worst case. Pull the heads. Possible it is popped gasket and hydrolocked.
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Ken, sorry about the news, Glad you still have the '75 L-82 though, sold mine several yrs ago to a friend. I did happen to replace my tired 147K original mile L-82 engine with that Direct Replacement '73-'87 GM V8 260hp 350 4 bolt main motor. Had a 5yr/50K warranty with it too. Put 19K on it before I had sold the car. Got the motor for $1187, kept the original motor, swapped over starter, alt., water pump, intake, carb, dist., fuel pump, valve covers, pwr str pump. Everything was a direct bolt up too. Enjoyed that motor til I sold the car, then gave the buyer the original engine. Sold car with 169,000mi on it. Ran superb!

Thanks Paul. I still enjoy the car, but on a more limited time basis. I messed up my back a few years ago so I only crawl in the Vette when I can take off the T-Top so I don't have to bend as much to get in.

I am keeping a short block replacement in the picture if needed, but I really would like to keep the original motor in the car and not in storage.

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