1969 corvette 427
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My opinion is the diminution in value is subjective. If you like the car, and the cost you should buy it. Matching number car with a service replacement transmission cant be much less than a 100% example.
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Probably because 99% of the Corvette enthusiasts, especially those who were actually around back then, realize that a lot of these cars, in the late 60s-early 70s, were driven, and driven HARD. Therefore "service replacement" drivetrain parts were somewhat common.
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From: Indy Indiana
if it is claimed as a matching numbers car and advertised at a matching numbers price, then yes there is a devalue there.. maybe 10% or so. it would make me look harder at everything else.
but really depends on your definition of matching numbers... to most novices, it is term that means original engine. to others it may mean 50 different things...
of course the seller will claim that the price already includes a discount for a non original tranny from a price that a original tranny car might have.
but really depends on your definition of matching numbers... to most novices, it is term that means original engine. to others it may mean 50 different things...
of course the seller will claim that the price already includes a discount for a non original tranny from a price that a original tranny car might have.
Dr. Detroit
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From: New Braunfels Texas
If the car is nice....I just don't and never will understand the whole numbers match thing......I used to til I woke up.......
Numbers match cars only mean something to people who have or have to have a numbers match car......for the rest of us, whatever......
Can I ask why you have to have a numbers match car?
Jebby
Numbers match cars only mean something to people who have or have to have a numbers match car......for the rest of us, whatever......
Can I ask why you have to have a numbers match car?
Jebby
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St. Jude Donor '05
exactly. Walking from a car you like because of a trans makes no sense
Same with nitpicking a hose clamp bolt or anything else. Who cares?
A lot of original cars out there arent. These things were hammered by the 70s parts swapping is not a big deal.
Buy the car and enjoy it noone will know nor care.
Same with nitpicking a hose clamp bolt or anything else. Who cares?
A lot of original cars out there arent. These things were hammered by the 70s parts swapping is not a big deal.
Buy the car and enjoy it noone will know nor care.
Safety Car
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From: Indy Indiana
I myself neither cares about all the numbers matching hype.. but the fact is that numbers cars demand a higher price and cars have to be priced accordingly..
Numbers, condition, provenance, and options are what a car's price is based on.
just pay the correct price...
but also I always say.. everyone overpays for a car because they are the only one that will pay that price.
Numbers, condition, provenance, and options are what a car's price is based on.
just pay the correct price...
but also I always say.. everyone overpays for a car because they are the only one that will pay that price.
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numbers matching. VIN on block, trans and rear diff. and twice on frame. casting numbers and date codes on just about everything else. a true numbers car has had the orig alternator, carb and water pump rebuilt and owner verified rebuilder actually rebuilt the correct parts. and most other repairs were handled in the same way. these cars are rare and expensive. and these cars weren't usually driven hard enough to blow the transmission. the fact trans was replaced means PO did not care about originality and replaced whatever was needed.
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numbers matching. VIN on block, trans and rear diff. and twice on frame. casting numbers and date codes on just about everything else. a true numbers car has had the orig alternator, carb and water pump rebuilt and owner verified rebuilder actually rebuilt the correct parts. and most other repairs were handled in the same way. these cars are rare and expensive. and these cars weren't usually driven hard enough to blow the transmission. the fact trans was replaced means PO did not care about originality and replaced whatever was needed.