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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 06:02 AM
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That style of exhaust manifolds were used on a 66 Chevelle, I know because I purchased them from a friend and used them on the small block that I stuffed in my brothers 66 GTO. T
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Originally Posted by terrys6t8roadster
That style of exhaust manifolds were used on a 66 Chevelle, I know because I purchased them from a friend and used them on the small block that I stuffed in my brothers 66 GTO. T
Thanks....I'll try to get some pics off the engine.
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by doorgunner
Thanks....I'll try to get some pics off the engine.
Yes please do because those exhaust manifolds are all wrong for a SBC. The bolt pattern and the port layout are not SBC but look more like BBC.
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 02:15 PM
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Typical "log" manifold for sbc
https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-286...old&origin=YMM

Typical "ram horn" manifold for C3 with sbc
https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-161...old&origin=YMM

let's see OP's pics
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 07:51 PM
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This lower end pic was taken when I bought the car.











































I couldn't get a block casting number. I have the Ser.# in the garage...be back in 10 min.
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3911032 - 307/327 68-70 1.72/1.50 70cc" not the greatest but like you said, "Get it running, go have fun, then looks at later". not a big deal. Save up for some good ones at a later date

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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 08:20 PM
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I will say those exhaust manifolds you posted earlier in the thread have no resemblance to anything that fit this motor. Those are BBC manifolds and the ones on the motor are just standard SBC manifolds.
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rescue Rogers
3911032 - 307/327 68-70 1.72/1.50 70cc" not the greatest but like you said, "Get it running, go have fun, then looks at later". not a big deal. Save up for some good ones at a later date
That's O.K. I'll be going on long road trips and won't need 325 h.p.

Now......about the block serial # V0119TTP. It isn't spectacular either except for the 4-bolt main.


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It's certainly a small block; may be smaller than 350

seems heads are bottom shelf and probably cast too early to be a date match to motor assembled MY 1970

that's certainly a cast iron crank, not steel
V0119TTP

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TTP could be either
1970 350" 215hp, 2bbl carb, Manual Trans TRUCK
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1985 305" repeat 305" 160hp, 4bbl, Manual Trans, TRUCK

Truck motor doesn't match the car so it has no value as a match nor as someone else's vette motor
Seems it runs good and that in itself has value. So keep it and enjoy it until it either goes soft or you want more giddyup.
Unless it has 350 size bores with minimal overbore, I wouldn't expect to use it as a core for a future hi-po rebuild.
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The first thing I'd do is chuck the fram oil filter, their quality went south about 20 or 30 years ago.
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Originally Posted by jackson
It's certainly a small block; may be smaller than 350

seems heads are bottom shelf and probably cast too early to be a date match to motor assembled MY 1970

that's certainly a cast iron crank, not steel
V0119TTP

/Lime Book

TTP could be either
1970 350" 215hp, 2bbl carb, Manual Trans TRUCK
OR
1985 305" repeat 305" 160hp, 4bbl, Manual Trans, TRUCK

Truck motor doesn't match the car so it has no value as a match nor as someone else's vette motor
Seems it runs good and that in itself has value. So keep it and enjoy it until it either goes soft or you want more giddyup.
Unless it has 350 size bores with minimal overbore, I wouldn't expect to use it as a core for a future hi-po rebuild.
I should have measure the bore size when I replaced the oil pan gasket. My other option is use a bore scope and pocket tape measure to determine the diameter (under 4.000" or over 4.000".)

Good idea.....I'm 4 years behind schedule/no need for more lost time.




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The first thing I'd do is chuck the fram oil filter, their quality went south about 20 or 30 years ago.
AC?
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 06:04 AM
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Ac?[/quote]

Wix. T
PART # IS 1069, Wix is the manufacture for NAPA filters.

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Originally Posted by Gordonm
I will say those exhaust manifolds you posted earlier in the thread have no resemblance to anything that fit this motor. Those are BBC manifolds and the ones on the motor are just standard SBC manifolds.


Originally Posted by terrys6t8roadster
That STYLE of exhaust manifolds were used on a 66 Chevelle, I know because I purchased them from a friend and used them on the small block that I stuffed in my brothers 66 GTO. T
Yes, the STYLE (log) of that manifold was indeed used on the A-body GM cars, but the ones that "DG" posted, in post #3, are most definitely BBC manifolds.



Originally Posted by ntfday
The first thing I'd do is chuck the fram oil filter, their quality went south about 20 or 30 years ago.


In retrospect, with 30 years of hindsight no available to me, I suspect that a Fram filter was the cause of a short-term (thank God!!) oiling issue I experienced with a late-70s Trans Am that I used to own....
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 10:29 PM
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OF is WIX 51060 aka NAPA 1060 ... both have the ADBV
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 10:35 PM
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OP dg
look at extreme top rear of block, driver side, just behind driver head ... find block casting number ... that will likely home in on exactly which block.

most likely Seven digit Number ... most likely begins with a 3.
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In retrospect, with 30 years of hindsight no available to me, I suspect that a Fram filter was the cause of a short-term (thank God!!) oiling issue I experienced with a late-70s Trans Am that I used to own....[/QUOTE]

I run nothing but Wix or K&N and there are those that swear by Mobil1, but I have no experience with them.
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Originally Posted by ntfday
[In retrospect, with 30 years of hindsight no available to me, I suspect that a Fram filter was the cause of a short-term (thank God!!) oiling issue I experienced with a late-70s Trans Am that I used to own....
I run nothing but Wix or K&N and there are those that swear by Mobil1, but I have no experience with them. [/QUOTE]


On my C-5 Corvette, I ran an AC Delco, synthetic filter media type of oil filter, for a long time. I bought a couple of "6 packs" of them, from a former CF sponsoring Chevy dealer, back when I first got the car. However, the dealer is no longer a sponsor, and I believe that the filter has been discontinued. Therefore, I switched to the Mobil1 or Wix filter, whatever is "on sale" when I'm doing an oil change. Although the Corvette is the only GM car in the family fleet, now, for years, when there were other ones in the garage, I used Baldwin filters, as they came highly recommended for good filtration as well as good flow rates.

I got involved, possibly, with that Pontiac oiling fiasco, because back in those days, GM was cutting corners, and switching to the "small" oil filters, and I wanted to continue to run a "full size" (1 quart capacity) filter. At that point, Fram was the only readily available filter for that car, in the full size configuration. It wasn't until years later, when the crap hit the fan about the poor quality of Fram filters, that I thought that maybe the problem I experienced, was oil filter related, and by that time, I no longer owned the car.

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Old Dec 31, 2019 | 10:55 AM
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Baldwin filters are very good. Had a free case of B6 (B6 has NO ADBV). Used to run Baldwin B6 on sbc race motors but those are cranked over w/ ignition Off until OP builds. I probably still have a couple somewhere.

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Just checked ... Baldwin B1428 Does have ADBV and is otherwise same as B6

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Those are peanut valve 307/327 heads.....low performance truck heads. The exhaust manifolds currently on your engine are later passenger car and truck manifolds.....this is THE first time I have ever seen these in a Vette......all I can say is WOW.
Go to the back drivers side bellhousing pad and post that 7 digit number......it is a 4 bolt block which I am pretty positive means it is a 350 but it could be a Unicorn 327 large journal 68-69 block with 4 bolt.
Don't worry about the damn oil filter.......Fram had a "Champion Spark Plug" episode there for a few years but they have resolved it........if Fram still made crap filters, they wouldn't be able to make filters period as they sell about one million of them a day.......gotta love internet lynch mobbing, and this is not an oil thread (*hangman emoticon*).
If the engine runs good....cool......it will get you to the painter right?

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Originally Posted by Jebbysan
Don't worry about the damn oil filter.......Fram had a "Champion Spark Plug" episode there for a few years but they have resolved it........if Fram still made crap filters, they wouldn't be able to make filters period as they sell about one million of them a day.......gotta love internet lynch mobbing, and this is not an oil thread (*hangman emoticon*).
If the engine runs good....cool......it will get you to the painter right?

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