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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 06:14 PM
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My brakes sux.... I want to change all then out. Not looking for 2k brake kits, but basic kit that includes all the needed stuff. I know your saying "check the vendors." Well... it seems that either the vendors are out of stock or have really bad Google reviews.

Example of kit I'm looking for...
https://www.zip-corvette.com/instant...lt/?q=db-1124k

Just looking for options.. right now, Zip is the ONLY place I've found that has a kit in stock for my C3.

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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 08:49 PM
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If you do a search here, you'll see many people including myself recommend a Motive brake bleeder. When i used one on my 79, I got the best braking my car has ever had. I don't know exactly what problem you're experiencing, but it might remedy your current brakes, but regardless, if you're replacing all those parts, you should do yourself a favor and get one to optimize your new setup. And since you mentioned them, I got mine from Zip.
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy79
My brakes sux.... I want to change all then out. Not looking for 2k brake kits, but basic kit that includes all the needed stuff. I know your saying "check the vendors." Well... it seems that either the vendors are out of stock or have really bad Google reviews.

Example of kit I'm looking for...
https://www.zip-corvette.com/instant...lt/?q=db-1124k

Just looking for options.. right now, Zip is the ONLY place I've found that has a kit in stock for my C3.
Any kit will have a similar spec of rotor / caliper etc you already have. So just replacing may not change the "brakes sux".

3 main things effect how the car brakes.

1. brake pads
2. rotor surface
3. Master Cylinder / brake fluid / caliper flex lines.

Starting with the MC. If there is any air in the MC calipers or brake lines "they will always be bad".
If the brake pads don't produce friction again "they will always be bad", depends on the material used on the brake pads.
If the rotors are polished or contaminated (embedded with different brake pad materials) "they will always be bad"

Air usually shows up as a soft pedal and other problems cannot be measured since the car will not stop properly.
Poor brake pads show as poor stopping distance or cannot lock up the wheels
Rotor problems as vibration poor stopping distance.

I have wildwood MC / Calipers / with stoptech rotors / raybestos ST47 brake pads. This is not a upgrade to the factory brakes, just not AC Delco / GM parts.

With the factory GM parts and ST47 brake pads vs the wildwood parts and the same brake pads, they perform the same, well for track day use the wilwood parts last much longer.

I am guessing your calipers leak and have contaminated the rotors / brake pads and you have air in the brake lines.

Find out what has failed before just replacing everything.

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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 05:56 AM
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I have that exact brake kit on my 79. The calipers in that kit are rebuilt by Lonestar.

I kept the best of the calipers from my 79 (already SS sleeved), and rebuilt them for my 80 with CSSB O-ring kits, and used stainless braided hoses vs. rubber hoses.

For both cars, the Motive Pressure Bleeder is a pro tip, and made the job much easier.

As with Post #3, figure out what you need before buying parts. New hoses and proper bleeding are a must no matter what.
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probably should have talked about my issue... When pressing the brake pedal, it takes a ton of pressure to stop the car. I did bleed the system and that really did not help. The brakes look like original (50k miles) and I don't think they have ever been off the car. So my thoughts were to replaced it all. Already have my new master cylinder and new rotors.
It's also always pulled to the right a little when hitting the brakes hard. Not enough to bug me.

Yup... Safety is at the top of my list... Spending a little more for parts is no biggie.

t just seems many of the vendors have issue....
Ecklers - Ordered and 2 days later was told it was not in stock. Would be late MAY - Canceled order
Corvette Central - Has what I want in stock... But really BAD Google reviews for this joint - skipped
Zip as the items I need list (waiting for validation items are in stock.) They will also buy back my original Delco Calipers. -- Waiting for quote and shipping cost.

Not interested in the junk most the local parts store sell.....

As always..... The Corvette forum is fantastic... Appreciate all the details and help.. If anyone can suggest another vendor... please do.


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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy79
probably should have talked about my issue... When pressing the brake pedal, it takes a ton of pressure to stop the car. I did bleed the system and that really did not help. The brakes look like original (50k miles) and I don't think they have ever been off the car. So my thoughts were to replaced it all. Already have my new master cylinder and new rotors.
It's also always pulled to the right a little when hitting the brakes hard. Not enough to bug me.

Yup... Safety is at the top of my list... Spending a little more for parts is no biggie.

t just seems many of the vendors have issue....
Ecklers - Ordered and 2 days later was told it was not in stock. Would be late MAY - Canceled order
Corvette Central - Has what I want in stock... But really BAD Google reviews for this joint - skipped
Zip as the items I need list (waiting for validation items are in stock.) They will also buy back my original Delco Calipers. -- Waiting for quote and shipping cost.

Not interested in the junk most the local parts store sell.....

As always..... The Corvette forum is fantastic... Appreciate all the details and help.. If anyone can suggest another vendor... please do.
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I had a '79 too. Mine pulled to one side when braking, it turned out the power steering balance valve needed adjustment. As far as vendors, Rock auto has always worked for my other cars and trucks
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My 79 rotors are original and i would never replace them unless i had too..they wear well..and meaty original..
i would consider what others said and fix whats needed..redo calipers or check for operation..replace line rubber and steel neat rotors if needed..bleed all....
original brakes to me are excellent.
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Originally Posted by interpon
My 79 rotors are original and i would never replace them unless i had too..they wear well..and meaty original..
i would consider what others said and fix whats needed..redo calipers or check for operation..replace line rubber and steel neat rotors if needed..bleed all....
original brakes to me are excellent.
As these brakes are probably original.... I'm going to replace them. Just really looking for feedback on where to buy the stuff. Rotors also cost more to turn than to replace (28.00 for AcDelco via Amazon.)
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Maybe Muskegon Brake. Michigan based company.

And for what its worth, I have purchased rebuilt calipers from the local NAPA that worked fine. Delco Remy. They do want the cores back.

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Originally Posted by HeadsU.P.
Maybe Muskegon Brake. Michigan based company.

And for what its worth, I have purchased rebuilt calipers from the local NAPA that worked fine. Delco Remy. They do want the cores back.
Thanks.... Checked on line and its about 90 each for rebuilt. That's an option, but the kits on line still might be a better deal.

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