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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 01:27 PM
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I'm going to be replacing my OE 4 core brass/copper radiator with a new one from DeWitts. I want the direct fit OE style. My car is a 69 L46 with AC. I'm adding power steering and power brakes. DeWitts has two (a standard version and a HP version and the only difference is the cooling tubes are 1" and 1.25" respectively) and have been told both are the correct replacement. The HP version is a few hundred more and I'm wondering if it's worth it or not beings I do have AC and FWIW the engine is being rebuilt and I plan to keep running the 180* thermostat. Thoughts one what's the appropriate version?
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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 02:49 PM
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Hey NIX...can I vote for neither?

COLD CASE HD Radiator!
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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 03:38 PM
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I think either is good.

I always buy the HP version since I add Vintage Air and live in hot Louisiana. Plus big block is another good reason to buy HP.

Otherwise, the standard model is likely plenty good. You might contact DeWitts too for advice.
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I think either would be sufficient for your application, BUT if you ever decide to add some performance upgrades under the hood, the additional cooling from the HP would be nice.
Plus having the HP might be nice it you are stuck in traffic on a hot day or move to a hotter climate.

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Originally Posted by L-46man
Hey NIX...can I vote for neither?

COLD CASE HD Radiator!
Looks like they have a nice unit, but I've read that they don't fit quite as good.
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I think either would be sufficient for your application, BUT if you ever decide to add some performance upgrades under the hoof the additional cooling from the HP would be nice.
Plus having the HP might be nice it you are stuck in traffic on a hot day or move to a hotter climate.
I'm leaning on the HP version but don't want to buy more than I need either. I have reached out to DeWitts and they said the standard would be fine, but that the HP might be better with the AC. I sort of was left with either or....which left me still uncertain. So, I'm hoping the brain trust of the CF will offer some field experience with both units and if there's been any issues?
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C3 radiators are huge. No reason to automatically go HP with the 26" for the 27.5"

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If you get stuck in traffic the HP is better for you feet, that is what I went with..

Just watch the lower rad hose, you may have to shim the sway bar 1/4 inch, which is no big deal. I also have A/C.
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Originally Posted by Tom DeWitt
C3 radiators are huge. No reason to automatically go HP with the 26" for the 27.5"
My understanding is that dimensionally they're the same, and same as the original copper radiators. Is that not the case? Is the HP larger? Just measuring mine the "core is 26", maybe an 1/8" over, and 26.5" from center to center on the tank ends where the fit in the top and bottom core support brackets. For reference I'm looking at the 1239070M and 12439070M
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Originally Posted by BLUE1972
If you get stuck in traffic the HP is better for you feet, that is what I went with..

Just watch the lower rad hose, you may have to shim the sway bar 1/4 inch, which is no big deal. I also have A/C.
So, not a direct fit? I really don't want to shim anything. Did you go with the painted version...any photos?

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Originally Posted by nix1981
So, not a direct fit? I really don't want to shim anything. Did you go with the painted version...any photos?
It was a direct fit in the 72, the 71 needed a shim. No big deal, took me less than 10 minutes to make it. ( had a piece of Home Depot steel from when I made my 1980 trucks seat adapters, cut it and drilled 2 holes, black paint and it' s been in for 2 years.) Remember the bottom hose barb is soldered in, so it could have been off off by a degree or so. The core support could have been off by a smidge? Everything else fit perfect. I'm sort of a perfectionist, so it was not going to touch the hose.

I went with the non painted.

They do cool much better. The quality is also fantastic..

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Originally Posted by nix1981
My understanding is that dimensionally they're the same, and same as the original copper radiators. Is that not the case? . For reference I'm looking at the 1239070M and 12439070M
Yes, they are all the same.
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OP,
When you purchase a DeWitts your are buying the best.
The best quality, the best materials, the best construction and the best customer service.
Are they a perfect fit, yes they are and this is the first time I've read that anyone has had to do anything to make one fit.
Keep in mind that our C3's are 40 to 50 years old and who knows why Blue 72 had to shim his sway bar.
As Tom stated above the standard size will probably be all you need, but if you want to plan ahead for any future upgrades go with the HP.
Worst case, you never need the additional cooling, best case, you have it when you need it.
Either way, it will be a huge improvement over the oem radiator.
Read through this sticky in C3 Performance and you will get all the information you need.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ed-topics.html

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Originally Posted by OldCarBum
OP,
When you purchase a DeWitts your are buying the best.
The best quality, the best materials, the best construction and the best customer service.
Are they a perfect fit, yes they are and this is the first time I've read that anyone has had to do anything to make one fit.
Keep in mind that our C3's are 40 to 50 years old and who knows why Blue 72 had to shim his sway bar.
As Tom stated above the standard size will probably be all you need, but if you want to plan ahead for any future upgrades go with the HP.
Worst case, you never need the additional cooling, best case, you have it when you need it.
Either way, it will be a huge improvement over the oem radiator.
Read through this sticky in C3 Performance and you will get all the information you need.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ed-topics.html
Thanks for the link! There's no doubt right now that I want to put in a DeWitt, I just wasn't too sure on which one. I honestly don't think I'll do anything more to this car than run it as it is, basically a stock L46. I've been lucky so far that I've not had any overheating issues with my OE radiators (3 different corvettes) but as you point out...the quality fit and finish is next to none really, and that brings peace of mind to me. I live just outside the DC area and I can see where traffic and things might create a potential issue for a 50 year old radiator. I think it's the AC that was my hang up and whether or not the extra cooling would be beneficial. I know I'm WAY over thinking things, but I have this really great habit of buying one thing and needing another. I think it's a great quirk...my wife on the other hand does not agree.

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Originally Posted by nix1981
Looks like they have a nice unit, but I've read that they don't fit quite as good.
They fit every bit as good as the Dewitt and are very close to the specs of the Dewitt HP but cost a lot, lot less. Enjoy your Dewitt. I really enjoy my Cold Case.

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The speed/ machine shop I deal is a Cold Case retailer.
He has a cross section cut out on his Cold Case radiator display and looking at it you can see that they also make a quality radiator.
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