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Old Nov 27, 2021 | 04:00 PM
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I did an internet search about.my issue and got conflicting answers. I bought my 69 427 about a year ago now and it came with a generic hi torque starter which always seemed to make the typical starter/flywheel misalignment noise despite my attempts to shim it.I then went to Napa and bought a starter for a 427 which worked fine for a few starts. After pulling the bellhousing I noticed the aluminum starter snout had snapped off the starter, thankfully Napa warranted the starter but now I am concerned If I have the correct starter. This new unit seems to have a cast iron nose but Napa only has one number for their 427 motors.I will install this one without any shims to start but can this part number be verified?.part number 249-1091.
engine info is a 69 427 tripower with 12:1 compression.
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Old Nov 27, 2021 | 04:31 PM
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Not sure of the Napa numbers but depending on your VIN, you’ve got 3 choices. Note that GM used a 153 tooth and a 168 tooth flywheel, depending on the application. I have the 1108351 with the 153 tooth.



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You need a cast iron nose. So hopefully what they gave you now is ok.

The original part number is what 69L88 has on the chart and it’s the 1108400. I have not seen the 1107365 on any 69 from the factory.
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Thank you guys I will try and cross reference the 1108400 part number and count the teeth on my flywheel. I know the previous owner replaced the flywheel but I don't know if he got the correct one or not.
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Is your car subject to NCRS judging or similar ? Do you require a correct appearing starter ?

OR, are factory-fit, reliability and performance most important ?

How many teeth does your flywheel have ? 153T or 168T ?
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Is your car subject to NCRS judging or similar ? Do you require a correct appearing starter ?

OR, are factory-fit, reliability and performance most important ?

How many teeth does your flywheel have ? 153T or 168T ?
No this car is not NCRS quality, I wa meaning g to actually count the teeth on the starter this past weekend but got side tracked...I will report back with the tooth count. I do belive I got the correct starter this time because the nose of the starter is indeed metal.
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Old Nov 29, 2021 | 09:10 AM
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Go to Summit Racing and buy a high-torque mini starter, easy button and your starter problems will never come back.
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Buy a CVR 5323R....it will be the last starter you ever buy for it......and after installing over a dozen of these.....none have required a shim.
3x more powerful...half the size, 1/3rd. the weight and draws half the amps while engaged......
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cvs-5323r

read reviews here:
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Broken nose cones are frequently a problem if you do not have a starter brace.

Iron nose cones are used for manual transmission, large flywheel applications. Automatics with large flywheels can use those too but are not originally specd that way.

Manual trans, large flywheel requires the iron nose cone. They can't use aluminum nose cones.

Small flywheel nose cones are all aluminum and work for auto or manual transmissions.
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Mine had a starter brace and still broke right off. I took Jebbys advice and got the high torque starter.
it works great ,but it does sound a little strange. And the next time I get the car judged it will
be a deduct . Not much though.
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