This is for a very expensive ‘69 427. As in,..$95k.

Although it says the Craiglist listing is fairly new, it’s been for sale online for a while. So, that means to me that the market concurs it is priced too high.

I called the dealer (outside of Sacramento). You can see from the VIN that it’s a very early 1969, 194379S700183

I didn’t see this car on the Corvette registry. The dealer had no history other than it came from a local collector.

The dealer says it’s a # matching car that is basically all original (no restoration), with factory sidepipes.

The California license plate is circa 1989-1990.

Any thoughts or critiques?

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/ct...502370211.html

 

I’ve been watching this car for a long time, maybe a year. The car started out at $64k, then went to $75k then to $85 then the current price all in about 2 months from when it first showed up at Roseville Automaxx in CA. Too early to be an original side pipe car but otherwise it’s pretty nice. The car has been restored, dealer is full of crap and no way it’s original unrestored. The area in front of the cowl should be black, not body color, a clear sign it’s been repainted. The rear looks like it sits a little high. Price is just a bit high and no mention of any docs. Engine stamp looks good.

I think a fair price would be $80k.

 

What do you mean by this? Sidepipes (N14) were an available option on both the SBC and BBC cars in '69. About 11% of the cars that year were ordered with them.

 

The N14 option was not available until late December 1968/Jan 1969 because of a production problem with getting the pipes/covers. I have a real factory built 69 side pipe car and it’s one of the earliest I know of that has actual GM documentation to back it up, at least that I’ve seen. I’ve posted the tank sheet many times on the forum. If you do a search it will likely show up. My car is vin 712871, built Jan 11. I know there are earlier cars than mine but I have NEVER seen REAL documents to back up the claim of any made in December. I have seen cars with FAKE documents. I have also seen an earlier one than mine but it was still a January car. Also, the issue with the side pipes is a pretty well known fact. They were not on factory built cars before December 1968. Many cars have had them added, like on the car being sold by these guys.

I know of several owners that ordered cars as soon as the 69’s were available and ordered the N14 but there cars were delayed or they accepted another car because they didn’t want to wait. I have original 69 dealer paperwork on some cars that included the order cancellations/changes because of the side pipe delay.

It’s a great option. 4355 vettes came with the N14 set up. It’s not very common and highly desirable. So you should know how to identify a real one. There are many threads on what things to actually look for. On a side pipe car the frame had plugs put into the holes where the ground wires screwed into to connect to the full exhaust system. Many times that is left out from a car that has had them added. Front fenders are cut differently, but that’s easy to replicate. Anyone can add the rear lower valance but usually you can see the bodywork. Different trans bracket.

 

Well, you learn something new every day.

 

Thanks.

This is all very helpful.

 

Has the later vent ***** so someone has been through the interior at some time. Missing some of the heat shielding under the seats. Shows well but is very overpriced.

 

I think the carpeting is original! Not much else that I can see -- maybe the seats???

Coronette, when you evaluate "unrestored" look for 50 years of normal aging to appearance, surface gloss, and color fade. Even if a car has been stored away from day-one, the rubber components will age and get a surface powder/graying quality. Paint and vinyl glossiness diminishes unless polished again. However, original paint will not look so smooth and shiny - lacquer paints of that era age with a loss of deep gloss, and often, crazing of the surface is evident. Body panel seams also shrink over time so that you can readily see the bonding strips and joints between panels. The carpet on this car is a good example of color fade - it's just not vibrant any longer and looks aged.

 

Thanks, everyone.

I found another 1969 427 on Facebook marketplace. When I figure out how to post the link I’ll post one here (create another thread). It seems to be a similar vintage/color/engine to this one.

I noticed a lot more 1969-70s for sale in the past couple of weeks.

 

if the one you just found was on Houston Craigslist it appears to be a scam. I was trying to help an out of area member by going to look at it but the seller would never respond to either one of us.

 

the other car was out of Illinois.

It’s supposedly a matching #s 1969 427 L68. It’s listed for $60k. When I sent the owner the Corvette registry listing he told me he’s probably asking too little for it. I created a different thread for it.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-facebook.html

 

To the OP. Have you looked at cars here:
https://www.cars-on-line.com/corvette_3.html

 

That’s a great resource! Thank you! I get daily updates from various classic car websites, but hadn’t seen that,

I have been noticing more and more on the market recently. I thought selling season would pick up at the end of the summer, before cars are put away for the winter.

 

I can't see them in the picture, but this car also looks like the "rivet bumps" have been repaired.

 

facebook posts do not work on this forum. you need to say the post title and location for people to find a FB ad.

 

I would not even CONSIDER dealer owned cars. They just beat you to privately owned cars and now have a big markup on them. Lots of private owned cars on Carsonline.

You have been looking at and posting a lot of cars and by now should be educated enough to make a move on a car of your choice. You likely will want to have it professionally inspected. My advise is when you see a fresh listing you are interested in you should IMMEDIATELY contact the seller and lock in an agreement that they won’t sell the car before you have your inspector there within a reasonable amount of time. This usually requires an agreed upon price to be paid PROVIDED the inspection bears it out to be as advertised. Also, stale cars ( ones that have been listed for quite a while) are ripe for the same kind of agreement with a sizable discount from the asking price as the sellers have figured out they are overpriced and often ready to be realistic.

 

Ed, what are the frame plugs you mention? I have a factory N14 car, July 69, and don't remember seeing them. I've owned this car since 1977 and bought it from the original owner. Any help is appreciated.

 

On cars with under car exhaust, the pipes are grounded to the frame. The holes in the frames are tapped and ground wires attached. Side exhaust C2s and '69s, the holes are not tapped. On '69s there are plugs.

 

Funny, I was the second one to call about the car when the guy he bought it from listed it for sale. You'd be sickened to hear what he paid for that L68 car.

 

Any pictures of these plugs? My frame shows no signs of threads and still has the insulation on the rockers.