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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 02:57 PM
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I have the engine out,replaced stock cam with Comp Cam xe268,and I have th350,and I know they said for this cam,I could use this stock converter,not sure what it might be probably 1650 maybe,but,thinking it might be a good time to upgrade my torque converter,but also in the next two years,plan on swapping the th350 out,and swap to a 200-4R tranny,I’m assuming if I do get a new torque converter it would also work when I swap tranny’s.
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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Golferdad
I have the engine out,replaced stock cam with Comp Cam xe268,and I have th350,and I know they said for this cam,I could use this stock converter,not sure what it might be probably 1650 maybe,but,thinking it might be a good time to upgrade my torque converter,but also in the next two years,plan on swapping the th350 out,and swap to a 200-4R tranny,I’m assuming if I do get a new torque converter it would also work when I swap tranny’s.
Different tranny will require different torque converter. I'd go with a 2500 stall with your current TH-350. A good converter is not cheap. So getting 2 in a short period of time may not be worth it to you.
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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 08:06 PM
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Thanks,I will hold off till I put the other tranny in.
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I run the same Cam in my 77, with a manual gearbox. In the beginning I had a lot of trouble getting my tune right. Seems that Cam likes compression. Once I got my compression up to 10-1. It dialed right in.
Not certain what heads you are running, or compression ratio. But once dialed in it should pull hard from 2K up. And be fairly smooth below 2K.
I'm thinking your stock converter if at 1,600 would be just a bit light.
But I am certainly no automatic expert.
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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 09:34 PM
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I don’t think the converter interchange between the T350 and 200R4 , agree with the 2500 stall
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Old Dec 11, 2022 | 11:11 PM
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TH350 is non lockup and the 2004r is a lockup convertor, so they won't interchange. The XE268 cam will work with the stock convertor, but probably would feel better with a 2200 RPM or so stall. I ran a 268HE with a stock convertor and 3.08 gears, it was ok but a little soggy below 2,500k. I think a stall would have helped, but the real solution was lower gears.
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Golferdad, if I remember correctly your car is a 1981 correct? If that is the case your car, if it still has the original transmission, does have a lockup converter. Earlier T350's did not have lockup. It was controlled by the computer (CCC). which also controlled the carb and distributor. If you have done away with all of that including the computer, then it will no longer lock up the converter. Not really a big deal but can be made to work if you really wanted it to.

I agree with those who said to wait on the converter if you are going to do a trans swap later. When you do decide to do the swap, get with a good converter manufacturer and they will set you up with what will work best on your car based on rear end gearing, cam selection, etc. Your rear gearing may hurt performance some too if it is still is the stock 2.87 ratio.
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4-vetted, I have Edelbrock E street heads,Edelbrock intake,AVS carburetor and hei distributor with long tube headers,hopefully that’s enough.
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Yep,stock rearend.and that will be after the tranny,possibly 3.55 or 3.73 not sure yet.
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Old Dec 12, 2022 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Golferdad
Yep,stock rearend.and that will be after the tranny,possibly 3.55 or 3.73 not sure yet.
The torque converter is the answer, like mentioned the Cam is a dog until 2500 rpm, sure a lower gear ratio gets you through the "dog part" quicker at the sacrifice of cruise rpm , but a Torque converter puts the engine in the "happy spot" as soon as you hit the gas regardless of ratio is the real answer, get the proper stall speed first and then evaluate the rear gears last
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Just curious. What happens at low rpm cruise with a high stall converter? A lot of slippage?
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yes. but he is lucky that lockup will stop
the slip
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Originally Posted by derekderek
Just curious. What happens at low rpm cruise with a high stall converter? A lot of slippage?
not much if it's a high quality unit, I have a 5000 stall converter in another brand of vehicle and you would never know it's high stall from riding in it unless I tromped it or power braked it , it'll power brake 4800 rpm easily yet driving normal it's just like anything else , a stock S10 converter is 1950 rpm with a V6 and probably a little higher with a V8 for the 700 4L60E people where stock V8 is 1650 rpm and the old Vega 2800 rpm converter for the T350 people

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Originally Posted by derekderek
Just curious. What happens at low rpm cruise with a high stall converter? A lot of slippage?
Not really. If you start off at slow speed, you'll barely notice any difference from a stock converter. But if you stomp it, it quickly goes up to rated stall speed, locks (kind of), and you're instantly flying down the road. Think "holeshot".
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Keep the original converter for now. Move up to a 2500 stall with the new 200-4R you’ll be installing.
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