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Old Sep 5, 2023 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dan1495
Coronette - I’m intrigued and a little envious of how you were able to make some inroads with your local NCRS chapter. As I mentioned in an earlier post I attended a local chapter judging event and felt like I crashed a party I wasn’t invited to. I think Bajaholics post describing the intensity of judging events makes a lot of sense but I’m not aware of any other type of event that our local chapter ever has. Maybe part of the problem is that in a state as large as Texas “local” is a relative term.
I would recommend contacting the Chapter in your area (If you say what part of TX, I would be happy to refer you to the right place) Contact the Chairman and ask about meeting places and times. Chapter/Regional judging events are usually once a year, and most chapters meetings are quarterly, some bi-monthly.

You have to prepare for the judging events by training to be a judge, usually by discussing each others cars and helping each other to achieve what it takes to get a Top Flight. Again, as I stated earlier, it is generally more of a business/school setting than social setting.

To be honest, I would guess less than 25% of the people who attend will actually go for the Top Flight Judging, so most are there to learn and appreciate the level of commitment it takes.

Personally in my 40 years of membership, I have taken only one Corvette to Top Flight and achieved by first a Chapter 2nd, then Top Flight, after that a Bloomington Gold. It is a MAJOR commitment going for that, it was a challenging, learning and rewarding experience. But as of now (15+years later) I'm good with playing with driver quality cars from this point forward. To be fair, I also ran a 65 Roadster on the ISCA Circuit back in 86 and 87. Not until just recently have I even considered running another car on the Circuit. Maybe this next season, but we will see? (Not a Corvette)

I guess what I am really trying to say, is if you attend the smaller functions, you will see there is a gambit of people and level of interest all driven by the same appreciation of history.
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
i guess you live under a rock. I guess everyone you work with is your best friend, or when you were in school everyone got along and was nice to each other. conflict is a part of life; some is worse than others. I feel this is a stereo typical how you were brought up and the area you live in. some just think they are holier than thou. I tend to ignore them and move on life is too short to worry about that stuff. when going to events I try and get along with everyone, but you can't please everyone.
You might want to direct some of that condescending judgement right back at yourself, pal. I don't care how many threads you've created or how many posts you've made. That doesn't give you any right to act like a judgmental jackass. You don't know anything about me, and I would love for you to tell me what exactly in my last post is untrue.
Old Sep 5, 2023 | 08:12 PM
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That's not how it works in the real world. If you are one of the faces of the organization, YOU represent/YOU are the FACE of said organization. If you are one of the good apples, great, if a bad one, that's what snowballs into a bad reputation for the entire organization, so it means nothing to say 'oh well.. there are some bad apples...not everyone in the organization is like that- try again" - the damage was already done and felt by the person(s) who felt wronged. There really should be no place for bad apples anywhere in an organization that is customer-facing.

Speaking generally, but certainly true in this case - good customer service sadly does not go as noticed as bad customer service, the latter which tends to be significantly amplified. I'm sure every one of us has closed accounts or stopped patronizing restaurants or stores, etc etc because of one memorable bad customer service experience by a representative of whatever organization you choose to recall. The NCRS is no exception to that rule, period!

When you are a member of an organization and representing (especially in any position of authority within said organization), there is simply no such excuse as having a bad day, or whatever excuse you choose to use on the day you were not as friendly, helpful, or accommodating as you should have been.

That's how you get people like z51Jeff asking why he joined the NCRS. That's not his failure. That's a failure of the organization.
I call BS!!!! There is NO WAY anyone can believe what you just said, one person ruins an organization of 20,000 members for everyone.

Every organization I have ever belonged to, professionally or socially has people I like and those that rub me wrong. The same I am sure can be said about me by others. I will be the first to admit, I have no filter and am passionate about certain things. But to judge an entire organization on how I react or may be someone else is just BS. You NEED to go, mingle, see if YOU fit in, maybe its not them????

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Old Sep 5, 2023 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvette-ZL1
You might want to direct some of that condescending judgement right back at yourself, pal. I don't care how many threads you've created or how many posts you've made. That doesn't give you any right to act like a judgmental jackass. You don't know anything about me, and I would love for you to tell me what exactly in my last post is untrue.
name calling will get you nowhere. and lets keep this thread on track. I would love to live in a world like you describe but I have yet to find it
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name calling will get you nowhere. and lets keep this thread on track. I would love to live in a world like you describe but I have yet to find it
The tread is about a member's not so great experience with the NCRS. It IS on track. I live in the same world as you, pal.
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Originally Posted by Bajaholic
I call BS!!!! There is NO WAY anyone can believe what you just said, one person ruins an organization of 20,000 members for everyone.

Every organization I have ever belonged to, professionally or socially has people I like and those that rub me wrong. The same I am sure can be said about me by others. I will be the first to admit, I have no filter and am passionate about certain things. But to judge an entire organization on how I react or may be someone else is just BS. You NEED to go, mingle, see if YOU fit in, maybe its not them????
So you've never had a bad customer service experience and stopped patronizing that business, aye? I guess you got real lucky. We all have to deal with folks in an organization (our workplace) that we may not be crazy about, but we HAVE to since it's our job. That's NOT what we're talking about here. Please specifically POINT out ANYTHING in my post which is FACTUALLY dead wrong. Not just your opposing opinion...
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So you've never had a bad customer service experience and stopped patronizing that business, aye? I guess you got real lucky. We all have to deal with folks in an organization (our workplace) that we may not be crazy about, but we HAVE to since it's our job. That's NOT what we're talking about here. Please specifically POINT out ANYTHING in my post which is FACTUALLY dead wrong. Not just your opposing opinion...
I will agree that some may not understand the layout of a Judging event. I will also agree that there is some people that can and will make a situation uncomfortable. I will also state there is 100/1 ratio of people that are less wound than others about any situation (That is of course a number from the air) so bottom line, there is more good than bad. Remember this is a WORLD Wide organization broke down by chapters, regions etc...

Factually I will state: No person is important enough to ever be considered the sole spokesman for an organization. Period. There are those that will take the helm and try to steer it in their own ideas, but if it goes off track the following election can hopefully cure the problem. (YES, I know that also means outside of NCRS) In fact if it is bad enough there can be a special election.

I feel it is COMPLETELY unfair to judge an entire organization by the few, without first meeting people outside their circle. One needs an open mind and social skill themselves as well.
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Originally Posted by Corvette-ZL1
You might want to direct some of that condescending judgement right back at yourself, pal. I don't care how many threads you've created or how many posts you've made. That doesn't give you any right to act like a judgmental jackass. You don't know anything about me, and I would love for you to tell me what exactly in my last post is untrue.
I think his comments about “how you were brought up” was a global observation about people, not an attack on you. I think that misunderstanding is why Im not giving out hostility sanctions yet.

Still, the pissing match is getting off the rails, as do all threads created to attack NCRS do. They have a shelf life, and this is that point.
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