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Old Dec 25, 2023 | 02:55 PM
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First off, merry Christmas to all of you who celebrate the holiday. This site and these forums have been a gift to me. Thanks.

I just took ownership of a 1980 L-82, with a 383 stroker motor in it. The interior of the car has the typical vintage car smell, but the outside continually gives off a very strong, somewhat offensive odor that is stinking up my garage. I opened the garage door a few times in the hopes of airing it out, but it remains.

I don't do mechanicals myself, so I don't know if this is normal for a car of its age, or an indicator of something worse. I looked underneath and see no leaks.

She's due to a trip to my mechanic to fix the exhaust leak at the header flange, and a few other things that I knew about before I made the purchase.

Is this normal for old cars?
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Old Dec 25, 2023 | 03:11 PM
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What does it smell like? A gas leak can be too small to notice but still smell. If you just bought it and it was recently painted it could still be curing and off gassing. Or you might have a bad catalytic converter if it smells sort of like sulfer, just a few suggestions. You also could have a small dead animal caught under the front or underneath? yuck but I have seen it more than once. It's NOT normal.
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Old Dec 25, 2023 | 03:23 PM
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My vette stinks up my garage too, it smells like gas,gear oil and horsepower..... I love it.
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Old Dec 25, 2023 | 03:33 PM
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The car wasn't painted recently, and I'm familiar with that scent and it isn't that. I would guess that the odor is coming from the engine bay, but not from a trapped, dead animal. It's not *that* offensive. Could it be that fluids leaked on a hot engine and the motor somehow absorbed the odors? I can't really describe what the smell is exactly like, but maybe like burnt oil?

You can see the report from Lemonsquad at the following link (which doesn't require registration or anything). Maybe taking a look at the engine photos might give some idea? It's kinda ugly in there (there are only a few photos of the motor, and you have to scroll past numerous pics before you get to them). Overall the report from LS was good, no major problems:

https://lemonsquad.com/customer/view...3aa6f9b1e3a157
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Old Dec 25, 2023 | 03:49 PM
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I would guess that the odor is coming from the engine bay, but not from a trapped, dead animal. It's not *that* offensive. Could it be that fluids leaked on a hot engine and the motor somehow absorbed the odors? I can't really describe what the smell is exactly like, but maybe like burnt oil?
Man, this is going to be tough to identify a smell over the internet!
So a burnt oil smell sounds like it's a petrochemical sort of smell but not gas or electrical (acrid) or animal (putrid) or antifreeze (sweet) or auto trans (burnt toast). The block isn't going to absorb much of anything. It could be coming from the exhaust. Does anything look like it's been resting/melted on the exhaust manifolds or pipes? Make sure nothing is currently touching. If it's something like this, I'd recommend a long road trip where the engine and exhaust get to full temp for a period of time. If something is melted to a manifold or pipe, it should burn off.
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Old Dec 25, 2023 | 04:04 PM
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I haven't taken a good, long look at the engine bay, but I took her out for a few minutes last Tuesday, and while stopped at a red light, began to feel woozy from the exhaust leak. Of course, I opened the windows to limit exposure but now I'm afraid as hell to drive it anywhere. I plan to have AAA flatbed it to my mechanic, so I'll get to know everything after that. But to your points, yeah, I'd say the smell is petrochemical in nature.
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I haven't taken a good, long look at the engine bay, but I took her out for a few minutes last Tuesday, and while stopped at a red light, began to feel woozy from the exhaust leak. Of course, I opened the windows to limit exposure but now I'm afraid as hell to drive it anywhere. I plan to have AAA flatbed it to my mechanic, so I'll get to know everything after that. But to your points, yeah, I'd say the smell is petrochemical in nature.
In the original posting, I missed that you have a leak. Get that fixed first and then re-evaluate. If the engine is running rich or lean you'll get distinct smells and the exhaust leak could be releasing it in the engine bay. Did you notice any eye-burning with the stink? Do you have a carb or injection or what for fuel delivery?
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Old Dec 25, 2023 | 04:44 PM
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No eye-burning, and the car has a carb.
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Gear lube smells pretty bad and can stink up an entire garage. Check for a leak from the rear diff.
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Originally Posted by BachelorOfScience
No eye-burning, and the car has a carb.
While your mechanic is fixing the leak ask him to see if he can ID the smell or track it down. Let us know how it turns out.

How much have you driven the car since you got it?
While I understand your concerns for getting gassed, I'd say drive it to your mechanic's shop with the windows down. You won't be at much risk doing that.

How much understanding do you feel you have for engine operation and proper tune?
(It's OK to say little to none - it just helps us know how deeply to explain when replying.)
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Old Dec 25, 2023 | 06:13 PM
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I only drove it a few miles around town (no highway) to get the VIN inspected and notarized. I get ya, about driving it myself with the windows down, but I tell you, feeling lightheaded while on the road scared the crap out of me. I'll consider your suggestion, though.

I haven't turned a wrench on a car since I was a teenager, and that was quiiiiite some time ago, so my understanding for proper tune is very little at this point. My cousin and I used to try to tune up my dad's Pontiac Catalina, with a fair degree of success. Mostly I stick to the simple stuff, like changing parts that require just the basic set of tools. It's been a long time and I've forgotten most of what I learned back in the day, unfortunately. Even with YouTube videos, I wouldn't even try to do any work like steering or brakes, to give just 2 examples.
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When I hear leak and smell, I think of something burning...
Sounds like some type of oil on a hot exhaust...
Trans fluid, coolant, engine oil?

My other guess would be a recent header paint job?
Engine paint overspray on the exhaust manifolds?
Could also be over spray on the exhaust from a recent undercoat job.

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Old Dec 25, 2023 | 07:35 PM
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That's the thing, though. The engine hasn't run for a week now. The smell is just always *there*. This wasn't bad when I had my C4 (a 96) in the garage. Aside from age, what could make the difference? As soon as you walk into the garage, boom, it hits you.
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A dead animal of some sort tucked up inside some nook comes to mind.
I have a 77 model. It's kept in a very small one car garage that shares the laundry. If my car stunk even a little bit that crazy woman that lives in my house would most certainly notify me! Damn she has a nose!
So, no. Old age of the car is most certainly not the cause.
Mouldy smell???
Yes this is tough over the net.
But it's NOT the age of the car.
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About 18 years ago I found a nest that mice had built in the seatbelt anchor well under the passengers seat. The various odds and ends they used to construct the nest held moisture, this with the old mouse droppings did leave a bad smell. Not a dead animal smell, but also not nice. The moist nest also promoted corrosion in that seatbelt retractor well. Causing me to cut it out and weld in a new floor and reinforced anchor mount for the seatbelt. Those critters can leave behind bad things even after they are long gone!
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Probably not the cause but have a look inside the windshield washer well to either side of the firewall. I had some 40 years of pine needles there in my 69 so smell was not an issue but who knows what you have there? That air vents to the inside of a car unless things are majorly plugged up. And .... I don't know if an 80 is at all similar to a 69 but that year has no screen.

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What part of Florida do you live in?
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hope you are able to fix it!
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What part of Florida do you live in?
South FL. Broward county.
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hope you are able to fix it!
Thanks. Am gonna do whatever I can. My mechanic isn't taking new cars until 1/4, so I have to wait.
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