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I have a recently bought a C3 non power steering car and it's by far the hardest steering car I've ever owned!!! The first time I got in it I thought the steering column had locked. Anyway box is well greased, not adjusted too tight, not too much caster in the alignment, and no binding anywhere. If there's different ratio boxes available, and I hope there are, this ones obviously for a PS car, and this car's not one. Please tell me there are different ratio boxes....... THX all.
No there's not. There are 2 different holes on the spindles however. They could be on the tighter ratio hole, (inside)
Worth having a look.
Otherwise, hit the gym.
Or install aftermarket power steering. Like a Borgeson unit.
If it truly feels like the steering wheel is locked up, somethings not right.
If you installed PS you would blow the rubber lines or the pump in the first day.
Should not be that tight.
With the front end up on jackstands, grab a front tire at 9 o clock & 3 o clock and manually try to turn the entire linkage.
Have someone behind the wheel turn it lock-to lock several times while you crawl underneath and give a thorough inspection.
Might be ball-joints. You could always narrow down the issue by disconnecting. portions of the system with a picklefork.
Eventually, it should get easier & easier to steer and you have found the problem.
I have had a few manual steering cars. I enjoyed it. It should not be a burdon.
It accurs to me that maybe the OP here has never owned a manual steering car before.
Do you realise that you can NOT turn the wheel and then start to move with a manual steering car? No matter what the ratio. You have to start moving and then start to steer.
How does the car steer when moving along down the road?
If the answer is fine. Then it's a matter of learning how manual steering works.
There was just a thread on this. I converted my car TO manual steering, and it doesn't have the outer holes that your car probably does. There's a 10X difference in steering effort between stopped and rolling at 5 mph. Once you train yourself to steer only with the wheels turning, it's not hard at all.
Though there are different input shafts, the ratios are the same for all stock C3 steering boxes.
As was said above, a car without power steering has to be moving a little bit to get the wheels to steer. A manual steering car with a fat set of modern radials will also be harder to steer than a car with period correct narrow bia ply tires.
Corvette power steering systems used the same box as the manual steering cars, with the assist being supplied by a slave cylinder and control valve providing the assist to the steering linkage, not through the steering box. Besides adding the PS pump, control valve and slave cylinder, the only other change made to a Corvette's steering system when power steering was added was a different pitman arm and center link. The steering box, spindles, tie rod ends etc were all shared with both assisted and non assisted Corvette steering systems.
Anyone who claims that C3 Corvette manual steering is excessively difficult to drive is either pathetically weak, or has driven modern cars so long they have the wrong perspective on steering. And as said above,...you don't turn the wheel in a parking lot without forward or rearward motion. I have to do several turns to get my manual C3 in the garage....every time out, and every time in. No big deal, and I am a 180 lb 65 year old man, not exceptionally strong,....i.e. not a muscle head.
Anything above 10 mph going down the road....I can turn the wheel with one finger....although I drive with both hands because I want to. And my car has alot going against it for a manual....my 77 has the 14 inch steering wheel versus 15 inch, tie rods connected to power steering holes in steering arms, because there is no hole for manual in 77......and by the way....I love it, and would not ever want anything different in this car....it drives like a sports car should, with excellent road feel and feedback. With my Gary Ramadei built steering box.....with the smallest movement of the steering wheel...the car reacts....like a sports car should. ANd the bonus is NO leaking power steering pumps, no hydraulic cylinders that leak....and no power steering belt / pump stealing power.......adding to the very open and simple engine compartment I have. Perfect.
But heh.....its me. Very few people agree with me on many things.
Last edited by Shovels and Vettes; Apr 20, 2024 at 06:27 PM.
Well, I better find a local seminar on how to use non power steering. LMAO. Now I'm seeing different pitman arms, depending if the car has power or non power steering. WTF's next? LOL. Seriously everyone, this thing's unacceptably HARD to steer.
How does it steer at 50 MPH?
if the answer is fine.
Then I think you need to add power steering.
If the answer is, still hard.
Then you need to find the problem and repair it.
If you get the front up in the air and turn the wheel is it easy or hard? Maybe start there and see what you see. Personally I'd not want a non power steering or power brakes vehicle. I realize that's only my opinion but I like the responsiveness of power. I realize its apples/oranges but had an old mustang without either. That old thing was actually dangerous on the Calif roads. Couldn't turn fast enough if it had to and God forbid you had to stop fast, that wasn't happening. Was a nice old GT but sold it as the driving experience was awful.
The first thing to check is what 4 Vettes recommended in the first reply; which hole are your tie rods installed in the spindle/knuckle. Inner is for P/S and outer is for manual. The amount of effort needed if in the wrong holes will be considerable. Having the P/S pitman arm will not really matter in the effort and others have reported that it does not affect steering or safety.
The pictures shows the tie rod end in the P/S holes and the manual (blue paint) and P/S pitman arm.
A couple of us recently did some measuring.
This would be normal on a manual steering car:
It may take 30-40# of force at the steering wheel to turn the wheels, if the car is NOT moving.
As soon as you get to 5 mph and above, then it drops to 3-4-5#.
It should only be really stiff when the car is not moving. That is normal for manual steering.
Once moving, the wheel should feel no stiffer than a normal car with PS.
C3 steering ratios(?)
