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Old Jun 16, 2024 | 10:15 PM
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The manual transmission cross members were welded, when the auto-transmissions were bolted in?

Why the difference between the two? I just don't 'get' it.
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Probably saved 12 cents per car.
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The welded frames are stronger.

80-82 frames are made out of slightly thinner material (part of taking 250 lbs of weight off the car in the partial redesign), yet all frames came with bolt-in transmission crossmembers.

C3s were assembled by dropping the body onto the completed chassis (with engine, transmission, and drivetrain already in place), so they never had to do the job on jackstands in a gravel driveway.
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Originally Posted by Tech141
The manual transmission cross members were welded, when the auto-transmissions were bolted in?
Why the difference between the two? I just don't 'get' it.
When you find the answer to that question, then maybe you can tell us why GM welded the clutch Z Bar bracket onto the 4 speed frames but they didn’t weld it on the automatic frames.
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When you find the answer to that question, then maybe you can tell us why GM welded the clutch Z Bar bracket onto the 4 speed frames but they didn’t weld it on the automatic frames.
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68 -72 Corvettes were road raced extensively back in the day. They are the only Vettes with solid body mounts because of this fact. That is why the four speed frames had the welded crossmember to cut down frame twisting. Also the automatic transmission is a lot larger and needed the removable crossmember. So now you know why the welded crossmember is there. Lou.
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Thanks for the info, folks. Much appreciated.

have a Great Day.
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When you pull the automatics out, the built-in bellhousing had to go with the tranny = extra long to clear the crossmember.
When you pull a 4 speed, the bellhousing stays with the engine = shorter, to clear the crossmember.

So its a weight and length thing.
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Frame rigidity.

If you dont like it, just cut the welds, remove your x-member, weld in some nuts inside the frame, then modify the x-member ...or install a bolt-on one. Pretty simple.
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