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Old May 21, 2025 | 03:44 PM
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What are your thoughts about this '69 coupe? I think it would make a good candidate for an engine and transmission swap. It looks like it has a '77 or newer engine. I saw on eBay a complete '70 350 / 350 with A/C, 4 speed drive train but it's listed at $9,000!

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This car will go well over $9,000.
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The seller mentions in the video he has $20,000 in it! He has receipts for around $5,000 so I guess he paid about $15,000 for it. The paint has to be done, new seat form and covers, A/C doesn't work, it's the wrong engine and I don't like automatics! Plus the 308 gear would have to go..
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Standard comment. Check for frame rust. The critical area is where the frame "doglegs," arching over the rear half shafts, are welded to the horizontal frame rails extending from the front to rear wheels. The degree of rust is very important here. One reason for importance is the obvious, the second reason is that the rust here is indicative of the rust on the birdcage. If the frame needs replacing, really not that big of a problem, if the birdcage needs replacing...this is not the car you want to buy.

Try to check for accident repair. For example, after purchasing my 68, I was to discover that the front and rear ends contained large amounts of Bondo on both the front and rear. Also, with my 70 I ultimately found, after purchase, that the front end was a Bondo sculpture masterpiece. Many of the fractured body panels were held together with wood screws with the screw heads disguised by a layer of Bondo.
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About that 3.08 differential. For hours long driving on the interstate, a 3.08 with the OEM transmission, is an ideal gear. Low engine rpms, low wear on the engine, good gas mileage. If you're going to be buying a manual tranny for the car, my recommendation is a Tremac 5 speed with a 3.73 differential. Good acceleration in the lower 4 gears, and pop it in 5th gear for low engine rpms at high speed interstate cruising. A Tremac 5 speed/3.73 differential is pretty much the same, as for gear ratios, as the OEM transmission with a 3.08 differential. I have a Tremac 5 speed and a 3.73 differential in both of my 68 and 70s.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 05:42 PM
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Great car if the price is not to high.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 05:55 PM
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I think the seller may also be who did the $5000 worth of work, County Corvette in West Chester PA. From the pictures it appears that a lot of mechanical work has been done (calipers, master cylinder,mufflers, shocks, rear shock mounts, rear strut rods, radiator hoses, wiper door actuator, power steering hoses, PS slave cylinder and PS control valve). Overall it looks like a decent 69, much of it in solid original condition...except for the later 350 engine. Be aware that if you're planning on repainting it and having the interior redone, the cost of this work can easily be anywhere from $15000-$25000 if you're paying someone to do it properly and professionally.

It's interesting to me to see from the warranty booklet that this 69 was sold new at Mall Chevrolet in Cherry Hill, NJ. I know (knew) Mall Chevrolet well. I have a 1971 El Camino that I bought there new in May 1971. Mall Chevrolet was opened by John Hubler on Haddonfield Rd in Cherry Hill around 1965 or 66. The name came from their location next to the Cherry Hill Mall, the first enclosed mall built on the east coast in 1961. Though I didn't know John well, I was friends with other members of the Hubler family. A good friend of mine started in Mall's parts department in 73 and was moved to the sales department in 75, where he remained until 85 when he left just before John retired and sold the dealership. The next owner was a somewhat shady character who managed to retain ownership of the dealership till about a year ago. An audit by GM around 2018 found that Mall had been submitting bogus warranty claims, causing GM to revoke their franchise, though the legal battle dragged out until early 2024 when GM finally prevailed. The dealership is still there, but it's now known as Hessert Chevrolet and is owned by the Hessert family who have owned numerous dealerships in the Philly/South Jersey area.
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Originally Posted by jigoe007
The seller mentions in the video he has $20,000 in it! He has receipts for around $5,000 so I guess he paid about $15,000 for it. The paint has to be done, new seat form and covers, A/C doesn't work, it's the wrong engine and I don't like automatics! Plus the 308 gear would have to go..
Not the Vette for you. I guess!?!?!
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Originally Posted by TKX 5-SPEED C3
Not the Vette for you. I guess!?!?!
I don't mind a project.. But I'd have to get it a decent price since I'd want to change out the drive train and I live in Texas so I'd have to install Vintage Air..
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Originally Posted by gbvette62
I think the seller may also be who did the $5000 worth of work, County Corvette in West Chester PA. From the pictures it appears that a lot of mechanical work has been done (calipers, master cylinder,mufflers, shocks, rear shock mounts, rear strut rods, radiator hoses, wiper door actuator, power steering hoses, PS slave cylinder and PS control valve). Overall it looks like a decent 69, much of it in solid original condition...except for the later 350 engine. Be aware that if you're planning on repainting it and having the interior redone, the cost of this work can easily be anywhere from $15000-$25000 if you're paying someone to do it properly and professionally.

It's interesting to me to see from the warranty booklet that this 69 was sold new at Mall Chevrolet in Cherry Hill, NJ. I know (knew) Mall Chevrolet well. I have a 1971 El Camino that I bought there new in May 1971. Mall Chevrolet was opened by John Hubler on Haddonfield Rd in Cherry Hill around 1965 or 66. The name came from their location next to the Cherry Hill Mall, the first enclosed mall built on the east coast in 1961. Though I didn't know John well, I was friends with other members of the Hubler family. A good friend of mine started in Mall's parts department in 73 and was moved to the sales department in 75, where he remained until 85 when he left just before John retired and sold the dealership. The next owner was a somewhat shady character who managed to retain ownership of the dealership till about a year ago. An audit by GM around 2018 found that Mall had been submitting bogus warranty claims, causing GM to revoke their franchise, though the legal battle dragged out until early 2024 when GM finally prevailed. The dealership is still there, but it's now known as Hessert Chevrolet and is owned by the Hessert family who have owned numerous dealerships in the Philly/South Jersey area.
Thanks for the background info! I lived in Mt. Holly for a few years when I worked in Philadelphia. I remember two things about Cherry Hill.. First, folks at work told me that's where the Mafia lived.. And I remember doing my Christmas shopping at the Cherry Hill Mall!
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Thanks for the background info! I lived in Mt. Holly for a few years when I worked in Philadelphia. I remember two things about Cherry Hill.. First, folks at work told me that's where the Mafia lived.. And I remember doing my Christmas shopping at the Cherry Hill Mall!
There were always rumors about certain Cherry Hill "families", but South Philly was much better known for mob activity. Cherry Hill's most famous resident was probably Muhammad Ali. A friend and neighbor of Ali's was said to be a member of the mafia, but in this case it was the Black Mafia.

Ali lived on Winding Drive for a few years in the early 70's. This was a very exclusive area of Cherry Hill and a longtime friend of Ali's (whose name escapes me now) lived there and convinced Ali to buy a house there near his. This friend was involved in a lot of shady things and was claimed to be part of the Black Mafia in Philadelphia. He was murdered in his house not too long after Ali move into the neighborhood. I had a friend who lived on Winding Dr at this same time. He was of Italian decent and his father was a builder in South Jersey. According to other friends, his father was supposed to be involved with the mob, but none of us ever had the nerve to talk about it with the son.

When I bought my 62 Corvette in 76, I joined a Corvette club that was based in Mt Holly. I know Mt Holly well, I grew up about 15 miles west of there and only live about 15 miles south of there now.
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If you can get it cheap enough, that might be a good project. Did they explain the oil pan painted "GM Corporate Blue"?

I guess that doesn't matter either. Ditch both the automatic transmission and the engine, and sell both on Facebook to get your initial cost down.

$9K for a roller, or whatever it goes for? I'll stick to bubble-glass C3s.
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If you can get it cheap enough, that might be a good project. Did they explain the oil pan painted "GM Corporate Blue"?

I guess that doesn't matter either. Ditch both the automatic transmission and the engine, and sell both on Facebook to get your initial cost down.

$9K for a roller, or whatever it goes for? I'll stick to bubble-glass C3s.
The seller says the engine was installed in 1978 and there's a picture in the listing that shows the stamp pad, it's the shorter pad found on small blocks starting in 1978. The engine's blue because it's a 78 or 79 "010" 350 block and engine.
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What's a fair price? It's at $8k with 4 1/2 hrs left.. $12k?
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It sold for $18k! Wow!
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Originally Posted by jigoe007
It sold for $18k! Wow!
...damn, $18k, Wow is right!!!
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Originally Posted by Bikespace
Ditch both the automatic transmission and the engine
You have THE record for being a Broken record. Post about LS engines or automatics being useless compared to manual transmissions and you and Mr. Exclamation marks who cannot spell to save his life should shack up together.

not really
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Originally Posted by jigoe007
It sold for $18k! Wow!

Bidding was actually kind of leisurely but Mr Werekahn was likely not to be denied. He must have really wanted the car based on upping the previous bid by over $4K.
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You have THE record for being a Broken record. Post about LS engines or automatics being useless compared to manual transmissions and you and Mr. Exclamation marks who cannot spell to save his life should shack up together.

not really
If that car doesn't end up LS (or LT) swapped, I'll buy you a beer. $18K is a lot, but someone really wanted a white 69 coupe to restomod. Perhaps we'll see it back on BaT soon.
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I didn't bid because I didn't want to be sucked in.. I would of bid $12k and the shipping would have been about $1k. I've seen much better deals on here..
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Bidding was actually kind of leisurely but Mr Werekahn was likely not to be denied. He must have really wanted the car based on upping the previous bid by over $4K.
I thought maybe the winner since he just joined BAT in May 2025 and he had ZERO bid history was a bogus bid.. But yeah he really wanted it badly!
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