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Long time lurker, first time poster…have an 81 that I inherited from my wife’s grandfather. Just replaced the master cylinder along with all new calipers (Wilwood) today, and when attempting to bleed the system, there was a substantial leak from an area just behind the master cylinder. Leakage was increased when pedal was pumped, but it’s not leaking while sitting untouched.
I had noticed last night when I removed the old master that there was some fluid built up around the brake booster attachment, but this is now a brand new MC. Is this a common issue on the vehicle? I guess my next step would be to replace both the master and brake booster? Would like to hear the group’s thoughts on this, as it’s my first time working on a vehicle, and obviously my first corvette. Thank you all!
Just a rookie guess here...Old brake fluid ruined the seal in the brake booster and the new fluid is making the leak worse. I forgot if boosters can be rebuilt DIY to keep the car Original.
Your booster isn't at fault here. Sounds like your new master is at fault here.
when you bench bleed your master, did you push the piston in to far? Thus destroying the seals?
This is a common issue. Lack of knowledge can easily destroy a new master. Or perhaps you got a bad one?
My comments are not directed to just you but the hundreds that fall into your category.
I never understand the thought process of purchasing aftermarket brake systems for our C3s.
It's been said they are some of the best disc brakes in the world with 4 pistons per corner, reasonable price on parts
and somewhat easy to swap-out by the weekend warrior.
Do you road race? Rally on Saturday? Drag race on Sunday? Salts Flats on weekdays?
Or perhaps your drive 120 miles an hour then slam on the brakes at the grocery store?
If the Delco lasted 40 - 50 yrs, one would think you could get another 50 years with new Delco parts, right?
I am sure Wilwood are wonderful brakes. They sold millions.
But what is the obsession with them on C3 / street?
Just a rookie guess here...Old brake fluid ruined the seal in the brake booster and the new fluid is making the leak worse. I forgot if boosters can be rebuilt DIY to keep the car Original.
I could see that being a possibility. The car was parked for about 20 years, and had a soft pedal leading up to him putting it in storage. I’ll see if I can get the MC off and take a closer look at the seal in the booster. Thanks!
Your booster isn't at fault here. Sounds like your new master is at fault here.
when you bench bleed your master, did you push the piston in to far? Thus destroying the seals?
This is a common issue. Lack of knowledge can easily destroy a new master. Or perhaps you got a bad one?
When I bench bled it, I actually used the syringe method rather than depressing the piston. I would sure hope I didn’t get a bad MC, however I am new to all this so a lack of knowledge could definitely be the main factor
My comments are not directed to just you but the hundreds that fall into your category.
I never understand the thought process of purchasing aftermarket brake systems for our C3s.
It's been said they are some of the best disc brakes in the world with 4 pistons per corner, reasonable price on parts
and somewhat easy to swap-out by the weekend warrior.
Do you road race? Rally on Saturday? Drag race on Sunday? Salts Flats on weekdays?
Or perhaps your drive 120 miles an hour then slam on the brakes at the grocery store?
If the Delco lasted 40 - 50 yrs, one would think you could get another 50 years with new Delco parts, right?
I am sure Wilwood are wonderful brakes. They sold millions.
But what is the obsession with them on C3 / street?
No offense taken whatsoever! I definitely see your perspective. This car was an early inheritance from my wife’s aging grandfather, whom I would love to get back into his beloved car at least one more time before it’s too late.
He had the Wilwood calipers from a few years ago when he meant to get it back into running order but just couldn’t find the time to do so. While I certainly appreciate the thought of keeping the vehicle with OEM parts, using what he had available was far cheaper for me. Kept the old Delco calipers though, wouldn’t mind rebuilding them one day and getting them back on. No racing for me, just a Sunday cruiser and a family heirloom!
You bought it from Ecklers???
I would suggest that you look threw some of the vendor reviews in the feedback section near the very bottom of the first forum page.
scroll down past all the C8 -C1 forums and keep going. Second from the bottom, "Transactions Feedback ". I believe it's called. Read all the reviews. Make more informed decisions on parts purchases .
You have a bad master, plain and simple. The booster doesnt cause the rear seal on the master to leak. Clean the booster with some Brakekleen.
Agreed. A booster isn't going to suck brake fluid out the back of the master - that's solely a rear seal issue with the new MC.
Agreed x2: You don't want brake fluid sitting inside the diaphragm area of the booster. Try to get as much brake fluid out as you can: suction gun, shop vac with small hose, rags.