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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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My carb is leaking from the pump and the side rod. It is a holly 750 vacume secondaris, maunal choke single pump. The engine is a 350 11 1/2 to 1 pistons, comp cam 280 duration 486 lift. I was thinking of getting a edelbrock carb. How are they compared to a holly?
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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The physics of how a carb works don't change from manufacturer to manufacturer.

It's more of a matter of personal preference whether one chooses a Holley, Edelbrock, Carter, BG, Weber, or whatever.

If you're not into fiddlin' then it really doesn't matter. If you are into fiddlin', then the more modular (such as the Holley or BG and especially a Weber) the better.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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rebuild it
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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$35 for a rebuild kit or $300 for a new edelbrock. Rebuild it unless you want to switch to the mechanical secondary edelbrock.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Garys 68
$35 for a rebuild kit or $300 for a new edelbrock. Rebuild it unless you want to switch to the mechanical secondary edelbrock.
I believe Edelbrock's are vacuum secondaries.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysWave
I believe Edelbrock's are vacuum secondaries.
Edelbrock square bore carbs are mechanical. They're just a shiney version of the old Carter AFB carbs.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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There's a great thread here that is worth reading and may help your decision.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Garys 68
Edelbrock square bore carbs are mechanical. They're just a shiney version of the old Carter AFB carbs.
They're neither vacuum or mechanical secondary. They are air valve secondary. It's true that the throttle linkage acts directly on the secondary butterfly but there's no air movement until the air valve is overcome.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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I used to be a Holley guy just because that was the carb I was most familiar with. Then I bought a dual quad setup with Carter AFB's on it. When I started reading up on the Carters (Edelbrock sells the same under their name), I realized how easy they were to tune. The nice thing about the Carters is that metering rods, jets and power valve plunger springs, can be changed by removing the top cover and all is right there. The carb does not have to be removed from the vehicle to tune it or the bowls removed and gas spilled everywhere like the Holleys.

I always like the back to back compares when the carbs are swapped from brand A to brand B. One makes more power than another and the conclusion is instantly that the carb was the reason. When the fact is they don't look into how well calibrated either of the carbs were for that application or even attempt to tune them further. Where are the air/fuel numbers in these compares? That is what tells the true story.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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Default Edelbrock 1902 - on my car and I like it!

That is the modernized version of the Rochester Quadrajet. Has triple venturis as I recall. Recommended highly!
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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my vette had the 650 edelbrock on it when i bought it. this carb is so reliable, and stays tuned. ive always loved holleys but you always gotta mess with em'. the 383 im building is getting a bg speed demon, which suprisingly is cheaper than a new holley. rebuild the one you got
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Originally Posted by redc3
...ive always loved holleys but you always gotta mess with em'. ...
Really? What is it that Holleys are always needing done to them?
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The reason why i was thinking of just getting a new one was that my brother in law and me rebuilt it 2 years ago for the first time since it was leaking out of the side accelerator rod ( it also developed a vacuume leak and stalled the car out before the first rebuild.). Before that i got 15 years out of it with no trouble. Now it is leaking out of the side accelerator rod and front pump on the bowl but running good.

Thanks for the info.

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Try to tighten the accelerator pump housing screws.

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Originally Posted by gerry72
They're neither vacuum or mechanical secondary. They are air valve secondary. It's true that the throttle linkage acts directly on the secondary butterfly but there's no air movement until the air valve is overcome.
You explained it well. Bottom line, it's vacuum drop that makes the secondaries come to play.
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I ****canned the new Eldebrock and passed over holley and went straight to a Barry Grant Speed Demon 750DP. I'll never look back!
See my website pics below.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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One advantage to the carter/Edelbrock carb is that the bow gasket is a dry type. the gasket is above the fuel and doesn't get wet and then dry out causing shrinkage. Gasket shrinkage is probably the only problem with holley carbs. The wet gasket dries and shrinks causing tuning changes. Noticed especialy after removal from storage. This is why some owners end up rebuilding Holeys every spring. Usualy they can get away with only replacing the gaskets and not messing with the setting.

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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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I used to be a Holley guy until I got the Edelbrock carb that
came on my 75 vette. I've had it for years ... never had to touch it.
Also, it has sat for long periods, only to wake back up as the bowls fill.

If your Holley runs good, then I agree - just rebuild it.

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Originally Posted by Brettmc
Try to tighten the accelerator pump housing screws.

Brett
Tried that. They were tight. That fuel leak is directly from the center of the pump not from the gasket around the accelerator pump. I think i might try to rebuild it and give it another shot.

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