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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 04:42 AM
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Default Koni rear shocks??? $134 each!!!

Yikes! I know they've been around forever but are they worth the money??? I think all that adjustability might be wasted on me.


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These shocks ('63 - '82) work very well, especially with the composite spring. The rebound is adjustable, and the shock is rebuildable. When these wear out you don't throw them away, you send then in to the Koni service center in Hebron Kentucky, and they come back all new. These shocks list for $134 each, and I will bet you will not find them at anywhere near this price




These are the fronts and are adjustable? Are they like the old style Koni's?? I remember someone posting that the new one's aren't comparable to the old Koni's.




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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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I have 4 of those with less than 100 miles on them.

What do you mean w/ old/new style konis? They are adjsutable by compressing them and turning them, the yellow sport ones (not available for C3) have a big **** on the top. What old ones do you mean? Those double adjustable ones? If you find a pair let solid lt1 know..he's still looking for some. They are very expensive, discontinued and hard to find. They are easily recognised by holes in the shock eye, where you can insert a pin to adjust bump.

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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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Koni shocks are by far the best shocks on the market. The red ones are not as extreme as the yellow ones... you need the adjustability to match the shock to aftermarket springs, especially the 550lbs springs are way too much for the stock shocks which were designed for using 300lbs springs...
I've had Konis a few years ago, back then they were a lot cheaper. I think I paid around $450 for 4 shocks and springs.... well that was around 1990....
The warranty is as good as they advertize... no questions asked...

For 'normal' driving you don't need these....
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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These shocks ('63 - '82) work very well, especially with the composite spring. The rebound is adjustable, and the shock is rebuildable. When these wear out you don't throw them away, you send then in to the Koni service center in Hebron Kentucky, and they come back all new. These shocks list for $134 each, and I will bet you will not find them at anywhere near this price

You mean the (orange) worn out Koni's I just took off my 72 are rebuildable??? More info please...more info!!!!
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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I just sold a set of (4) used up, worn out double adjustable Koni Corvette shocks for $900. (they went to a Corvette restorer on Long Island NY) now all they need is a $1000. rebuild.....if $500. is too much you should buy a set of Bilsteins...............
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PS: there is a set of single adjustable Konis on my car and a set of custom valved Bilsteins in the trailer...
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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You mean the (orange) worn out Koni's I just took off my 72 are rebuildable??? More info please...more info!!!!
Eddie
I believe the "rebuild cost" is more than the replacement cost...
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Silvr77
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You mean the (orange) worn out Koni's I just took off my 72 are rebuildable??? More info please...more info!!!!
Eddie

They are rebuildable - contact Koni in Kentucky... if you have a receipt for these then it's probably covered by their life time warranty. If you have to pay for it, then 4 new shocks are cheaper...
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Len, I've read in the past that the Koni's are suppose to be the best. I have the adjustable chrome Carrera's on my vette which are nice and used to be what VBP offered with their kits before changing to the Bilsteins (also very good shocks).

Whatever you pick, I bet will be just fine for the street
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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i paid $9.99 each for 4 sears shocks(half price sale)
either u brag how much u paid or how LITTLE!
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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And what's the quality on those? I've said it before, people here spend a lot of effort on improving performance and looks..what about safety, I would not trust my life w/ a 10$ shock doing well over 100mph....
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
And what's the quality on those? I've said it before, people here spend a lot of effort on improving performance and looks..what about safety, I would not trust my life w/ a 10$ shock doing well over 100mph....
i can't compare quality since i never tried expensive shocks.
except to say they work well
and they have been on for 10 yrs
and they are US made by OEM.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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I'm running four of the red Koni's on mine for some 4 years now. I like the ability to fine tune them, something I was not able to do with the KYB's I had on previously. The Koni's do require removal to adjust them. I believe there other brands out there now that can be adjusted on car. I had to adjust them 3 times before I finally hit that sweet spot. The car handles great now and simply blows away the KYB's I had on the car. I got them from Summit for around $100.00 each.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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Sorry to hijack...wait no im not. Besides its on the topic of adjustable shocks

Would it do anythign to have adjustable shock mounts? My friend that went to "racing school" suggested it. I always think his ideas are bubba-ish.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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How much do the adjustable QA1s for our cars cost?
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by flood
Sorry to hijack...wait no im not. Besides its on the topic of adjustable shocks

Would it do anythign to have adjustable shock mounts? My friend that went to "racing school" suggested it. I always think his ideas are bubba-ish.
I went to a "racing school" haha, actually i took the mechanics training program at the bridgestone racing academy at mosport. and the only time you would need adjustable shock mounts are if you lowered your car, and even that there are shocks you can buy just for it! on some formula cars they have adjustable mounts but the only time they use them are too really fine tune the suspension. for the street you don't need them and the same goes for if your doing solo 1 or 2. you might aswell spend the money on something that will give you bigger results, that is unless you've already done everything
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Actually, when going with a heavier spring you need more rebound dampening to control it or the car may start to bounce. This is exactly what the konis are capable of, adjustability of rebound.
Shock mount adjustability only gives you a control factor of a few percentages, only when going over 25 degrees slant the shock effectiveness & spring rate drop off quickly vs. wheel rate. The only adjustability that would have some effoirt is the ability to move the lower shock mount inboard further away from the wheel to play w/ shock/spring rate vs. wheel rate.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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TT, I thought the "old" Koni's were as Redvetracr described (double adjustable) and offer more adjustability. Still not sure these are for me.

Can the Koni's be adjusted without removing the shock?

If that is in fact true that there's a lifetime warranty, they might be worth it, considering I put on about 1,500 miles a year.
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The fronts can be adjusted without removing them from the car by removing the upper mount, inserting a torx or allen bit w/ a long extension and pushing the shock valve down and turning, however removal is quite easy. For the rears they need to be removed but removal is also easy, if you loosen the upper mount on the rears, pull them out and angle them to where you can push them to full compression and turn will also work.

The konis do have a life time warranty here. Most street shocks are valved pretty soft for bump (so the ride isn't harsh) and stiffer for rebound to control the spring, when the konis wear you can simply adjust them for more rebound dampening, also required w/ stiffer springs. The double ds are very expensive and almost impossible to find and really are not necessary for the street.

Double adjustability is also highly overrated, when adjusting shokcs you can simply turn the ***** but that won't ensure similar valving from shock to shock, for that you need a dyno sheet to compare the shocks and determine what settings compare best between shocks. If you want to have a perfect balanced system you have to have your shocks custom built to perfect similar valving (which means dyno tuning them), I have custom built carrera coil overs that are all very very close to each other (dyno tested at 2 diff. temperatures as the oil warms up under heavy operation) and it's expensive to have that done.

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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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TT, there is (or should be) a rubber bump stop up inside the shock that has to come out for adjustment...how are you going to do this while they are mounted?? I adjust mine often (it does NOT make much of a difference but I do it).....redvetracr
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Yes, there's a big nylon washer that is easily pulled off the shaft and a rubber bump inside the cap that you can press out by sticking a small screwdriver through the hole in the cap, nut this is only for the rear shocks. When you remove the upper bolt and pull out the shock at an angle you can remove them. I have done it like that, however removing them completely is easier.
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