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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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While installing headers yesterday on my 78, I noticed the crossmember was different from what I had seen in the AIM. I was exptecting it to have two cutouts for the exhaust to pass through, like this:

---0--0---

instead this is what mine looks like:


Was this a production change on late 78s, or was mine changed when the previous owner swapped out the engine and transmission? Anyone running trual duals with this crossmember?

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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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i can tell you my 78 has the ---0--0---
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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My 77 has the two cutouts. I know that they changed to a different crossmember in later years but I thought it was later than 78.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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That pic looks very similar to the one on my 81 auto. I have modded it though for the ROD that's in it now.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Older Than Dirt
That pic looks very similar to the one on my 81 auto. I have modded it though for the ROD that's in it now.


looks similar to the one on my 81. Mid America makes a dual system that passes both pipes down the side with the relief.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bertmeister


looks similar to the one on my 81. Mid America makes a dual system that passes both pipes down the side with the relief.
That's how the muffler shop had mine routed. The pipes were unequal lengths however and probably affected HP somewhat. Doesn't matter now though, I'm running side exhaust with uncapped STS baffles.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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I think someone put a 80'ish cross member into your vette. My 78, along with all other others that I have seen have the O O .
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Thanks for the replys. I think I'll see of I can locate the correct crossmenber since I would prefer to have the exhaust pipes equal in length and the cleaner looking install.

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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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This is the crossmember in my 78 Vette:









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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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I believe '79 was the last year of the double "O" crossmember.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Do you have any close up pictures of the frame bracket for the trans crossmember? Adding this type of crossmember to a earlier C3 would look nicer than hacking up the old one and brackets to it to make it removeable.

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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Yep, my '79 has the double hole crossmember. It must be out of an '80 or later. I wonder if they're stronger?
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Since it is an automatic, the crossmember is bolt-in. I am already inquiring about gettting the original style. Trying some other members in the "C3 Parts" that were parting out their 74 to 79 automatics. There are also a couple Corvette Salvage yards in the area I am trying.

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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Sorry, message was for matchframe and his picture of frame only. But if you do find the other (2) outlet crossmember please take a picture and include some measurements if possible.

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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by matchframe
This is the crossmember in my 78 Vette:









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Another 78 here with the double o
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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My 80 Auto came with the side hump to clear the pipes. I have replaced with a 74 auto crossmember with the ----0--0----. Am putting headers with true duals. Also '80 auto and 4 spd both used a removable x member and a bolt on z bar bracket (and 81). I don't know about 78 or '79.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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You can switch back....it will bolt in. The double O style was stock on up to 79 year cars. My 1980 Corvette has the older style now with true dual exhaust. If you buy a used one.....remember to ask for the perch as well. The older Vettes with turbo 400s didn't need the perch as the mounting point was directly on top of the crossmember. The turbo 350 crossmembers have a mounting point that is in front of the crossmember......thus the perch is required If you convert to a 700R4 then a special modified perch can be bought from Bowtie Overdrives. Or you can opt for their tubular crossmember for 700R4 conversions. With this one your killing two birds with one stone!
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GasketDude
Do you have any close up pictures of the frame bracket for the trans crossmember? Adding this type of crossmember to a earlier C3 would look nicer than hacking up the old one and brackets to it to make it removeable.

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Here is a shot of the crossmember mounting bracket on the driverside:



Passenger side:



This is the end of the crossmember. There is a bolt that goes through the bracket, and 2 bolts that go into the bottomside of the frame:




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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Sometime an early prior to 76 crossmember doesnt quite line up with the side frme mounts, you have to slightly open the frame hole. I do mean slightly. I had to do it on my "80 with a 74 x member. There have been other posts about the same problem. Thats how I found out I thought i had a bent x member but tried 2 different ones and had same thing.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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I take it that the perch from my existing crossmember cannot be transfered to the older style. I couldn't tell from the photos I took, if it was welded or bolted.
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