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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Monday I'm dropping the 68 off at http://www.edhansonsmuffler.com/ and he's going to put on 3" aluminized pipe with cross-over and flowmasters. Ed plans to leave breaks to allow me to remove the exhaust for maintenance such as removing the tranny, rear end etc. which I coudn't do before due to the fact my current exhaust is one piece from the collectors on back. Given the limited room betwen the header flange and the frame cutouts we have agred to have the breaks after the frame cutouts and H-pipe. This should allow me to disconnect the band clamps and pull the entire rear section in the case of a blown rear end or in the case of a tranny rebuild I can disconnect the breaks and push the forward section back till the pipe to header flanges hit up against the frame cutouts which leaves plenty of room to get in there and work the tranny. Sorry no pictures, it would make my explanation much easier. If you have any pictures of this setup I'm decribing or have better ideas please feel free to post the here.

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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Why 3"? Seems like over kill even for hipo 327 unless you have visions of a 400+ sb or bb in the future.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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3" is way more than that 327 will ever need. A 2 1/2 will feed up to about 500HP. The 2 1/2 will fit much better. I have a system similar to what you are talking about. Mine comes apart very easily. I can take off the whole back half as one unit or split it at the H pipe. My H pipe has a ball and socket that comes apart very easily. Here it is with it unclamped but not apart. You can see the band clamps also.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Never seen those band clamps before, just the 4" wide ones. Where did you get them? Do they seal okay?
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Never seen those band clamps before, just the 4" wide ones. Where did you get them? Do they seal okay?
Those look like these:

SuperTrapp T-Bolt Exhaust Clamps
Exhaust Clamp, T-bolt, Stainless Steel, 2.5 in. Diameter, Each


You can get them in diff sizes for diff diam pipes.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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I just had 3" exhaust put about a month ago. I had to notch my trany cross member so the pipe came staight off my headers and tuck up under the car. I had header flanges put on after the x-pipe just under the the rear so I can take down the trany or the rear with out removing the hole thing. I'll send pics later today. My camera is at my shop. The guy did a fantastic job. All mandrel bent. I had a set of 2 chamber flow masters so we put those on. It sounds like a big block. I can also take off the flow masters at the flange and run open headers thru the x-pipe.
I have to agree that a 3" pipe is a little over kill for a 327 unless it's all worked up. Now if your not going with mandrel bent, then the 3" will be ok depending on how many bends there are . Good luck and I'll post pic later of my exhaust. Vince
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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3" is probably too big, but that's what I just put on my 350 ZZ4 that's been worked over some. Have to see how it runs later this spring. 3" can be made to fit thru the factory crossmember if your REALLY careful. Here's some pics of my install with an X-pipe and Borla mufflers. The exhaust goes to 2 1/2" after the X-pipe to fit the mufflers .... so its kinda a 3" but kinda a 2 1/2" also.




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Here is another shot of the exhaust. I have the band clamps and also the 4 inch wide clamps. They are the ones you can see slightly hanging down in this picture.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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Good luck and send pics, Vince
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
Here is another shot of the exhaust. I have the band clamps and also the 4 inch wide clamps. They are the ones you can see slightly hanging down in this picture.
That's about what I invisioned but the H-pipe was one piece. Why do you have gthe H-pipe splitable? Either way it comes off easy. I'll ask Ed why 3" maybe he's used to BB, yea it's sorta big.

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I really did not need the H pipe to split but when it is together it is heavy and kind of tough to handle with one person. I have taken it off both ways and it is easier to split it.
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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Bigger isn’t always better. Systems that are too large in diameter can actually hurt performance. Improved flow is what you need.
Ed did my exhaust three weeks ago.But my 78 L-82 has to smog.So I got 2 1/4" thru a 3" Cat,then 2 1/2" split out thru two Dynamax mufflers.Got increased flow and power.
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Agreed. I want some back pressire for low end torque. I'll make sure it's 2.5" So I take it you were happy with Ed's job?
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that looks like duct work on a furnace!
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Headers and exh pipes will always provide enough back pressure. Why do they run open headers at the strip? Too much torque? I doubt it. U will always have too much back pressure with pipes behind the headers. But 3" pipe is a problem to install all the way back and get it right.
Only need some pipe at exh port to prevent vlv from burning - no i can't explain that but that's what i read why dragsters need them. cardo0
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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I decided 2.5" pipe is going on tommorow morning, I have a 0800 appointment to drop her off at Ed Hansens.
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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You'll love the Dronemaster mufflers....

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