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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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The other night I was watching one of the CSI TV programs. They were trying to raise a filed off stamped serial number off of a handgun. They applied some kind of acid and did something else and the number reappeared. Has anyone out there ever heard of a process like that? The reason that I am asking is when the machine shop decked my block, they decked it all of the way to the edge over the suffix numbers. I would sure like to get the numbers back without having it re-stamped.

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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Page pewter99 in OT, he is a REAL CSI and can tell you about that method. I think that one is actually a "real deal"
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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From my understanding it can be done. But is not easy and takes an expert (thus expensive). And it does not "get the numbers back", may make some of them just visable enough to read so you can photograph or write them done. Don't believe that they will stay there in a readable format.

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They etch the metal, when stamping the numbers the metal's matric (chrystalline structure) under the stamps gets deformed also, just like on a note block, where the writing imprints on the pages below. When machining off the number it's not visible by the naked eye but when etching the metal the denser structures under the stampings become visible. It's pretty easy to do.
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They etch the metal, when stamping the numbers the metal's matric (chrystalline structure) under the stamps gets deformed also, just like on a note block, where the writing imprints on the pages below. When machining off the number it's not visible by the naked eye but when etching the metal the denser structures under the stampings become visible. It's pretty easy to do.
What can I use to do this? Will I need a professional or is it something that I can do?
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try hydrocholoric acid, I don't know for sure if it will work..may want to give it a shot on some scrap metal, punch some numbers in it, grind them off and then try it. I've never done it before either. You may have to use some kind of dye to make it readable.

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Originally Posted by Apocolips
The other night I was watching one of the CSI TV programs. They were trying to raise a filed off stamped serial number off of a handgun. They applied some kind of acid and did something else and the number reappeared. Has anyone out there ever heard of a process like that? The reason that I am asking is when the machine shop decked my block, they decked it all of the way to the edge over the suffix numbers. I would sure like to get the numbers back without having it re-stamped.

Twin Turbo is right on. I had a chance to tour the CSI equivalent at our county crime scene lab and saw a harley crankcase that a local picked up off eBay but turned it over to crime lab when they discovered the serial number had been filed off. They were applying their magic to ID the crankcase...pretty cool.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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If you ground the numbers off and then hit it with a torch would it even out the density and hide the numbers?

I saw the CSI as well.
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alot of the "reveal' is done microscopically so you may not see it with the naked eye....i would not be playing around with acid in my engine compartment....too many things can go wrong. like eating away your head gasket for one....
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Weld a line through numbers, and grind flat. Nobody will ever find them.
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