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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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I have to replace my temperature sender with a smaller version to fit my new heads. The problem is there is a sender in each head and I don't know which one works the gauge. The other must be for TCS or something. I can't test it because the motor is out, the battery is out the car is on jackstands and I don't want to open the door.

So... anybody know which head gets the temperature gauge sender? I don't want to buy both.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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Every Chevy 350 I have seen has the temperature sender on the driver side head.
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driver side toward front
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Originally Posted by joe73vette
I have to replace my temperature sender with a smaller version to fit my new heads. The problem is there is a sender in each head and I don't know which one works the gauge. The other must be for TCS or something. I can't test it because the motor is out, the battery is out the car is on jackstands and I don't want to open the door.
So... anybody know which head gets the temperature gauge sender? I don't want to buy both.
Thanks
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Ok my temp sender on my '74 is on the drivers side head between #1 & #3 plugs. I plugged the hole on the p-side - just used pipe plug with thread sealer. Most the temp sensors and controls for smog equip are mounted on the intake as far as i can tell.
Why the smaller version sensor? My World Products fit/used stock everything. Well if u really get serious and drill the hole larger remember the thread is NPT tapered pipe thread - not straight SAE.
Hope this helps. cardo0
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only other place it could be is in the center of the intake manifold, next to the water neck. Usually only if you have an aftermarket intake, thats where mine is on my weiand, the hole in the heads is plugged.
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Originally Posted by joe73vette
I have to replace my temperature sender with a smaller version to fit my new heads. The problem is there is a sender in each head and I don't know which one works the gauge. The other must be for TCS or something. I can't test it because the motor is out, the battery is out the car is on jackstands and I don't want to open the door.

So... anybody know which head gets the temperature gauge sender? I don't want to buy both.
Thanks
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Joe,

My 72 is between 1+3 on the driver's side. I too had to get the smaller sender due to a head change. The smaller diameter sender is the one for 1981-82. Zip part number ES-387.
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My 72 is between 1+3 on the driver's side. I too had to get the smaller sender due to a head change. The smaller diameter sender is the one for 1981-82. Zip part number ES-387.
Thanks for the hint. I'll save it in case the NAPA guy gets stuck. He said he would look thru the book and match the resistance with what is there now, but in smaller diameter.

It's 1/4" pipe thread right?

Joe
PS, I guess Dart uses later model sensor holes in their heads.
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1/2" isn't it? The Carquest guy found me one without looking it up. It reads higher than before, but I can live with that. After all, my speedo exaggerates, too
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Thanks for the hint. I'll save it in case the NAPA guy gets stuck. He said he would look thru the book and match the resistance with what is there now, but in smaller diameter.

It's 1/4" pipe thread right?

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PS, I guess Dart uses later model sensor holes in their heads.
Joe...I think the stock 1972 hole is 1/2" and the 81-82 sender is 3/8"
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Originally Posted by foundvettelifeisgood
Joe...I think the stock 1972 hole is 1/2" and the 81-82 sender is 3/8"
Gotcha - Thanks again. Joe
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the one on the passenger side of my 79 L82 runs the electric aux radiator fan.
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Well to give you guys an update, NAPA can't find a 3/8" sender with the same ohm reading as the original sender. It's an oddball range, 72-88 ohms. Most are 22-26 ohms, the 81-82 vette is around 100 ohms. So I bought a 1/2" pipe tap and I'll make the hole bigger. Now I know which hole! Joe
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Well to give you guys an update, NAPA can't find a 3/8" sender with the same ohm reading as the original sender. It's an oddball range, 72-88 ohms. Most are 22-26 ohms, the 81-82 vette is around 100 ohms. So I bought a 1/2" pipe tap and I'll make the hole bigger. Now I know which hole! Joe

If ur lucky that tap will have the correct drill size to use (stenciled or in the box). But u need to verify this as close isn't good enough - unless u like installing threaded inserts in a press sys. Sorry i can't recall - heck i can't even remember the plug/sender size (but u can just measure it now).
Good luck and thanks for the update. cardo0
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Originally Posted by joe73vette
Well to give you guys an update, NAPA can't find a 3/8" sender with the same ohm reading as the original sender. It's an oddball range, 72-88 ohms. Most are 22-26 ohms, the 81-82 vette is around 100 ohms. So I bought a 1/2" pipe tap and I'll make the hole bigger. Now I know which hole! Joe
The alternative is to get the 81-82 sender and mail it with your gauge to Jason at VetteInstruments@aol.com for calibration. He just did mine for $40 plus postage. I highly recommend this versus taking a drill to your head.
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I took a stock 1/2" sender from NAPA and turned it down. I then re-theaded it to 3/8". There was plenty of material and it works great.
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Well it's done. I opened the hole with the biggest drill I own (5/8) then started reaming it with the end of the tap. I used a rat-tail file to continue the taper all the way in. One hour of careful tap work later (half a turn at a time, lots of grease to catch the chips) and the stock sender fits perfectly. The threads are nice and even and I'm sure will seal with teflon. Thanks for all the advice. Joe
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Well it's done. I opened the hole with the biggest drill I own (5/8) then started reaming it with the end of the tap. I used a rat-tail file to continue the taper all the way in. One hour of careful tap work later (half a turn at a time, lots of grease to catch the chips) and the stock sender fits perfectly. The threads are nice and even and I'm sure will seal with teflon. Thanks for all the advice. Joe
Don't use teflon - if you do, the sender will then be insulated from ground and WON'T WORK correctly. Use only pipe cement (aka thread dope, etc.) - Home Depot plumbing section. The best to use is called RectorSeal - used in hot water/steam applications (I grew up in the world of plumbing!) and prevents rusting and seals superbly.
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Well, I see that I am late, but Lectric Limited (yes, it is the correct spelling) may have the part you are looking for.

http://www.lectriclimited.com/

The temp sender in the passenger head is for the TCS, Temperature Controlled Spark, system. Those sending units are still available but most people have disconnected them for performance reasons.
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Originally Posted by joe73vette
Well to give you guys an update, NAPA can't find a 3/8" sender with the same ohm reading as the original sender. It's an oddball range, 72-88 ohms. Most are 22-26 ohms, the 81-82 vette is around 100 ohms. So I bought a 1/2" pipe tap and I'll make the hole bigger. Now I know which hole! Joe
Joe, to late now, but why didn't you consider the NAPA 3/8" sender and install a small trimpot in series to add the required resistance. Local Radio Shack item. You can calibrate yourself if you have access to a thermal temp gun. Just point it at the thermostat housing and adjust the pot to calibrate your temp gauge. Its not accurate at temp extremes but close at the operating temp where it counts. The original probably isn't all that accurate across full range anyway.

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Joe, too late now, but why didn't you consider the NAPA 3/8" sender and install a small trimpot in series to add the required resistance?
I guess because I'm a mechanical engineer, not an electrical engineer! LOL But thanks for posting, somebody else might use the advice. Joe
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