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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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Hi, thought I'd pose this question here in the C3 section as you guys seem to be more into this sort of thing. I have .008 axial runout on a new flywheel. Is this acceptable? Both the crank flange and the flywheel mounting surface were deburred and cleaned. The measurment was taken just inboard of the pressure plate mounting holes. Thank you for your responses.
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Originally Posted by nassau66427
Hi, thought I'd pose this question here in the C3 section as you guys seem to be more into this sort of thing. I have .008 axial runout on a new flywheel. Is this acceptable? Both the crank flange and the flywheel mounting surface were deburred and cleaned. The measurment was taken just inboard of the pressure plate mounting holes. Thank you for your responses.
I'll assume you mean that you mean that you put the indicator on the machined surface and hand turned the whole works to get a total indicator reading of .008", as opposed to somehow measuring how much off center the whole thing runs in relation to the crankshaft centerline...

.008" is way too much for my taste. *I* wouldn't accept any runout at all, but I'm a machinist and can do whatever needs to be done to get things perfect. Hmmmm....I might be able to talk myself into .001" TIR, but certainly no more than that.
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 45ACP
I'll assume you mean that you mean that you put the indicator on the machined surface and hand turned the whole works to get a total indicator reading of .008", as opposed to somehow measuring how much off center the whole thing runs in relation to the crankshaft centerline...

.008" is way too much for my taste. *I* wouldn't accept any runout at all, but I'm a machinist and can do whatever needs to be done to get things perfect. Hmmmm....I might be able to talk myself into .001" TIR, but certainly no more than that.
I wouldn't accept .008 either. I would start looking to see where that much runout came from. I would indicate the back of the crank and if a few thousands at this point carefully using a file or emery remove the high spot, taking the crank out is too much trouble so I would spend the time and remove the high spot on the crank flange. If that is not the problem then it is lack of parallism of the flywheel itself.
Don't accept this much runout.
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EDIT: This is probably wrong - based on Norval's reply below.


It could be runout in both the crank flange and the flywheel.
Just like the brake rotors, you could rotate the flywheel in
relation to the crank (6 positions) and at least minimize it.
.008 sounds like a lot, especially if that is inboard of the friction
surface. It will be worse as you move outward.

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We just finished putting a new 5 speed in our C-3 - Keissler called for a max of .004 runout - we got it down to .001 using offset pins

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Guys, thanks for the input. I returned the flywheel to my supplier. Hopefully I'll have better luck with the new, new flywheel. I should be getting it Monday. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by NHvette
It could be runout in both the crank flange and the flywheel.
Just like the brake rotors, you could rotate the flywheel in
relation to the crank (6 positions) and at least minimize it.
.008 sounds like a lot, especially if that is inboard of the friction
surface. It will be worse as you move outward.
I thought the flywheel was fixed in it's position. No chance to rotate. It is doweled to a single orientation.
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Dont forget that you have .005 - .00? (can't remember number) end play in the main thust bearing.
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Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
I thought the flywheel was fixed in it's position. No chance to rotate. It is doweled to a single orientation.
You are probably right. My Chevys are all automatics ... and I haven't
had to mess with them. The only clutch I've done in years was a
Honda a few months back. I don't recall it was keyed in any way.
Did I check for runout ? Yeah - right - on a $100 car !? no.
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Originally Posted by NHvette
You are probably right. My Chevys are all automatics ... and I haven't
had to mess with them. The only clutch I've done in years was a
Honda a few months back. I don't recall it was keyed in any way.
Did I check for runout ? Yeah - right - on a $100 car !? no.
Your flex plates are also doweled and the bolts only align in one position. Thing about it? The external balanced engines have a counter weight welded to the flexplate in a certain spot. They make sure the flywheel/flexplate only go on one way.
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