Leaking 5 speed from Keisler
Melting Slicks
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Disturbing to find on a brand new modern transmission, IMHO. Is there a torque factor from Tremec that can be checked?
Melting Slicks
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From: San Antonio TX
Originally Posted by Mako72
Disturbing to find on a brand new modern transmission, IMHO. Is there a torque factor from Tremec that can be checked?
Melting Slicks
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From: San Antonio TX
Originally Posted by Ken74Conv
Keisler said to torque bolts to 50 ft-lbs.
If it still leaks, send the transmission back to them.
That sucks!
If it still leaks, send the transmission back to them.
That sucks!
Well if you are going to send your trans back have them send you a new one in advance so that you can install it when you take the old one out so you can still drive your car. And also have them pay for the freight on both items.
Racer
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From: chicago south burbs IL
Originally Posted by SHAKERATTLEROLL
Well if you are going to send your trans back have them send you a new one in advance so that you can install it when you take the old one out so you can still drive your car. And also have them pay for the freight on both items.
Racer
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From: Everfrost Second Life
On leaks...
If the K guys remove and replace the tails, then leaks are caused by them. The factory TKO's use 51813 Permetex. If the tails are leaking from units where the tails have never been removed then it's really a Tremec issue. In all fairness to Keisler you can't expect a reseller to cover a manufacturers warranty problems. No reseller does. Try and get something simple as a Accel coil exchanged for example!
51813 is a clear red anerobic sealant. We have seen factory units leak. I don't sell these transmissions basically because I have better things to do then inherit warranty issues with something you barely profit from. My 2 cents....
Paul
If the K guys remove and replace the tails, then leaks are caused by them. The factory TKO's use 51813 Permetex. If the tails are leaking from units where the tails have never been removed then it's really a Tremec issue. In all fairness to Keisler you can't expect a reseller to cover a manufacturers warranty problems. No reseller does. Try and get something simple as a Accel coil exchanged for example!
51813 is a clear red anerobic sealant. We have seen factory units leak. I don't sell these transmissions basically because I have better things to do then inherit warranty issues with something you barely profit from. My 2 cents....
Paul
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Drifting
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From: San diego ca
Originally Posted by 5speeds
On leaks...
If the K guys remove and replace the tails, then leaks are caused by them. The factory TKO's use 51813 Permetex. If the tails are leaking from units where the tails have never been removed then it's really a Tremec issue. In all fairness to Keisler you can't expect a reseller to cover a manufacturers warranty problems. No reseller does. Try and get something simple as a Accel coil exchanged for example!
51813 is a clear red anerobic sealant. We have seen factory units leak. I don't sell these transmissions basically because I have better things to do then inherit warranty issues with something you barely profit from. My 2 cents....
Paul
If the K guys remove and replace the tails, then leaks are caused by them. The factory TKO's use 51813 Permetex. If the tails are leaking from units where the tails have never been removed then it's really a Tremec issue. In all fairness to Keisler you can't expect a reseller to cover a manufacturers warranty problems. No reseller does. Try and get something simple as a Accel coil exchanged for example!
51813 is a clear red anerobic sealant. We have seen factory units leak. I don't sell these transmissions basically because I have better things to do then inherit warranty issues with something you barely profit from. My 2 cents....
Paul
However I would be more inclined to repair it myself than to spend weeks waiting for a replacement (or repaired) transmission.
Melting Slicks
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From: San Antonio TX
Originally Posted by 5speeds
On leaks...
If the K guys remove and replace the tails, then leaks are caused by them. The factory TKO's use 51813 Permetex. If the tails are leaking from units where the tails have never been removed then it's really a Tremec issue. In all fairness to Keisler you can't expect a reseller to cover a manufacturers warranty problems. No reseller does. Try and get something simple as a Accel coil exchanged for example!
51813 is a clear red anerobic sealant. We have seen factory units leak. I don't sell these transmissions basically because I have better things to do then inherit warranty issues with something you barely profit from. My 2 cents....
Paul
If the K guys remove and replace the tails, then leaks are caused by them. The factory TKO's use 51813 Permetex. If the tails are leaking from units where the tails have never been removed then it's really a Tremec issue. In all fairness to Keisler you can't expect a reseller to cover a manufacturers warranty problems. No reseller does. Try and get something simple as a Accel coil exchanged for example!
51813 is a clear red anerobic sealant. We have seen factory units leak. I don't sell these transmissions basically because I have better things to do then inherit warranty issues with something you barely profit from. My 2 cents....
Paul
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Originally Posted by Older Than Dirt
Looks to me that Tremec would not be liable for any warranties at all because their product has been altered or modified from its original design.
if it's something as simple as using Permatex then I wouldnt hesitate to do that then.
Melting Slicks
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From: San Antonio TX
If a person can just tighten the bolts to the recommended specs and stop the leak that is great even though this should have been done by Keisler. But if you have to remove the tail shaft to replace the seal then that might have a negative impact on the warranty of the gear box. But that is up to Keisler as they are responsible for the warranty on the gear box due to there modifications.
Racer
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From: Everfrost Second Life
When a trans part that is sealed with a sealant, in place of a gasket, tightening bolts more, won't promote a seal. It must be tightened correctly on the first try. Especially if you are using 51813 Permetex.
Paul
Paul
Burning Brakes
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From: Ft. Lauderdale Fl
My TKO leaked out the top in 5th gear. It was a bad seal. Keisler sent to me all the directions, parts and sealer to have a good tranny men here in South Florida to do the repairs. When it was finished and tested. I sent the bill back to Keisler. They reimbursed me. So I can't really complane. They stood behind there product.
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From: Cookeville TN
The top end leaks
Originally Posted by Brown78
My TKO leaked out the top in 5th gear. It was a bad seal. Keisler sent to me all the directions, parts and sealer to have a good tranny men here in South Florida to do the repairs. When it was finished and tested. I sent the bill back to Keisler. They reimbursed me. So I can't really complane. They stood behind there product.
Robert
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From: Cookeville TN
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Originally Posted by Ken74Conv
Leaking 5 speed from Keisler
Has anyone else had problems with leaks?
My friends is leaking between the tail shaft and the main body.
Has anyone else had problems with leaks?
My friends is leaking between the tail shaft and the main body.
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From: Foxfield CO 1970 Convertible
Thanks for your reply, Robert.
Is there anything the rest of us Keisler users can do to prevent this from happening? i.e. re-torquing some bolts, using different additives, etc. Unfortunately, my transmission still isn't installed but I'm ready to do it in a few days and would like to prevent a similar occurrence...
Is there anything the rest of us Keisler users can do to prevent this from happening? i.e. re-torquing some bolts, using different additives, etc. Unfortunately, my transmission still isn't installed but I'm ready to do it in a few days and would like to prevent a similar occurrence...