pertronix ignition
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From: central FL, near the beach.
Points are GUARANTEED TO FAIL given enough time.
use Pertronix #1181 However, BUBBA is not schooled enough to install it. Bubba should take the bus. See bottom of this link for a way to make huge profits http://community.webtv.net/MATTGRU/BRAKES
use Pertronix #1181 However, BUBBA is not schooled enough to install it. Bubba should take the bus. See bottom of this link for a way to make huge profits http://community.webtv.net/MATTGRU/BRAKES
Originally Posted by Solid LT1
I have used these ignition systems since about 1982 when they were first brought to market by the Per-Lux corporation. I have NEVER had one fail in useage that included a daily driver 72 SS El Camino, a 66 "A" code Mustang 2+2 that transported my wife through 4 years of Nursing school to get her BSRN degree (includung lots of mileage during her senior year to varoius area hospitals to do her 6 months of internship), in my 400+HP 12 second LT-1 Vette that wins at autocross and frequently sees the high side of 7,000RPM at the races and ocassionally on the street.) The ONLY problem, I have ever had with Pertronix Ignitor ignitions has been caused by the failure of the grounding wire from the point mounting plate to the distributor base. I take my distributors completely out when I install a unit and re-build them during the conversion. Making sure the distributor housing, bushings, vacuum advance, centrfugal advance, tach drive and seals are in excellent condition will allow the ignition conversion to return between 6-12HP in gains from the Delco points distributor. Simply installing a unit in a old distributor is asking for problems. Not having a "working" knowledge of how your ignition system works and the varoius components interact will result in my BEATING YOU at the races for less monetary expediture, somthing I realy enjoy doing to "posuers" who think they are "car guys" (you know who you are!) You will notice a giant difference in start-up of your more (way more instantaneous!), lower end power, RPM build-up (acceleration) and smoothness in idle/bottom end power. This is one of the best $75 investments you can spend on your Vette in my opinion.
Last edited by Matt Gruber; Apr 26, 2005 at 08:31 AM.
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From: central FL, near the beach.
Originally Posted by yellow 72
How exactly have you seen a set of points "fail"?
they failed so often tune-ups were nearly as frequent as oil changes (in the 60's70's).
For U i recommend POINTS (to get an education)
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St. Jude Donor '09
Originally Posted by Matt Gruber
boy U must be a youngin!
they failed so often tune-ups were nearly as frequent as oil changes (in the 60's70's).
For U i recommend POINTS (to get an education)
they failed so often tune-ups were nearly as frequent as oil changes (in the 60's70's).
For U i recommend POINTS (to get an education)
Race Director
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From: central FL, near the beach.
Originally Posted by Matt Gruber
Points are GUARANTEED TO FAIL given enough time.
use Pertronix #1181 However, BUBBA is not schooled enough to install it. Bubba should take the bus. See bottom of this link for a way to make huge profits http://community.webtv.net/MATTGRU/BRAKES
use Pertronix #1181 However, BUBBA is not schooled enough to install it. Bubba should take the bus. See bottom of this link for a way to make huge profits http://community.webtv.net/MATTGRU/BRAKES
Last edited by Matt Gruber; Apr 26, 2005 at 10:10 AM.
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From: Silver City NM
St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Like I said...use the search engine. For every testimonial that raves about them, there are 3 more that hate them. There's even one that will take up Solid LT1's challenge using points 
When points fail, they give you a warning....Engine starts missing. Engine runs rougher. High RPM can't be reached. When electronic ignition fails...WHAM. You stop with NO warning. A spare set of points are cheap and can be carried in the glove box and replaced while on the side of the road if necessary. Can you say the same for the Pertronix stuff?
BTW...electronic ignitions require a minimum amount of battery voltage in order to operate. Usually at least 10 volts. If you have a battery go bad, you will NOT be able to push-start an electronic ignition car
Dep
When points fail, they give you a warning....Engine starts missing. Engine runs rougher. High RPM can't be reached. When electronic ignition fails...WHAM. You stop with NO warning. A spare set of points are cheap and can be carried in the glove box and replaced while on the side of the road if necessary. Can you say the same for the Pertronix stuff?
BTW...electronic ignitions require a minimum amount of battery voltage in order to operate. Usually at least 10 volts. If you have a battery go bad, you will NOT be able to push-start an electronic ignition car
Dep
Last edited by DJ Dep; Apr 26, 2005 at 10:47 AM.
Safety Car
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From: Raleigh NC
My Pertronix failed after 3 months--now I keep a spare ignition module...
It did give me plenty of warning however--the motor lost power gradually over the course of two days until my Corvette couldn't go over 40 MPH--it was very vexing.
It was pretty easy to replace.
It did give me plenty of warning however--the motor lost power gradually over the course of two days until my Corvette couldn't go over 40 MPH--it was very vexing.
It was pretty easy to replace.
Last edited by PhotoVette1; Apr 26, 2005 at 11:13 AM.
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From: cincinnati ohio
St. Jude Donor '09
Originally Posted by Matt Gruber
no comments on my article? (Yellow 72 are you too lazy to click and read before commenting?)
...btw I didn't know WebTv still existed
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From: central FL, near the beach.
Originally Posted by yellow 72
Yeah I read it, still just more or less ...btw I didn't know WebTv still existed
...btw I didn't know WebTv still existed 
it's easier to stick with what one knows
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Originally Posted by Matt Gruber
the sad truth is, most guys are not qualified to convert it. they better stick with what they have.
There is NOTHING in the design or manufacture of these units that gives a 'better' or 'stronger' spark that could explain any performance increase. The engine is still reliant on a good old GM coil to induce the high voltage spark.
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From: central FL, near the beach.
Mike
ALL mods are debatable.
No wonder ALL original c3's bring more $$$$$$.
Bias-ply tires, points, leaded gas if original, make it rare and collectable. Few points lovers will ever buy a newer car with that dreaded electronic ignition.
ALL mods are debatable.
No wonder ALL original c3's bring more $$$$$$.
Bias-ply tires, points, leaded gas if original, make it rare and collectable. Few points lovers will ever buy a newer car with that dreaded electronic ignition.
Le Mans Master
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From: Fremont CA
I have to admit, I make a really good living in troubleshooting electronic devices/systems, good enough to allow me to own a 63 Fuelie, a 72 LT-1, another 72 Roadster, and my wife's Z06 (all are paid for and owned outright.) Maybe the majority should stick with what they can handle I would hate the additional competiton in the job market (thanks for being so complacent.)
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From: Hoosier
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Been running a Pertronix since March of 98 without a problem. Lars rebuilt my distributor in 99 and sent it back with points in it. I immediatley reinstalled the Pertronix.
