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Old May 19, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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With all the timing issues on the forum lately I decided it might be a good idea to check on mine, especially since she ain't been running tip top lately.

So I checked and it was frozen full advanced. Not good. I un-froze the mech advance and cleaned everything and when I tested it I only get a maximum of 10 degrees mechanical befor it pegs out. I triple checked everything, nothing is binding, and it springs back great. I tested with the lightest springs in the kit. How can I increase the amount of mechanical advance? Shouldn't I be getting 20 degrees mechanical? Is there some bushing or other in there that limits it? I can manually move the advance until it pegs against the slots on the plate below the advance cam. It moves easily, too. Help!
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what are the timing settings you are getting at base timing what is the degree/rpm and the degree/rpm where it pegs out? have the vacuum cannister disconnected for this test.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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what are the timing settings you are getting at base timing what is the degree/rpm and the degree/rpm where it pegs out? have the vacuum cannister disconnected for this test.
I have it set for 16 degrees initial at about 750rpm. Total advance stops increasing at 2800 RPM at ~26 degrees with the vaccum disconected. I'm about 10 degrees short. I marked my balancer by measuring the circumference with a tape like the tailors use, then divided by 10 to find where 36 degrees would be, and I'm using that mark. At full advance it stays right at the 10 degree ATDC mark on the timing pointer. TDC should show as 36 advanced using that mark. With the vaccum can connected I get another 16 degrees for a total of 42. Anyway you slice it, I'm missing 10 degrees mechanical.
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Try the stiff springs. You might be idling on the curve.

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Old May 20, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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I thought of that, too. No change, but it comes in later. Still only 10 degrees mech. advance total.
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I have it set for 16 degrees initial at about 750rpm. Total advance stops increasing at 2800 RPM at ~26 degrees with the vaccum disconected. I'm about 10 degrees short. I marked my balancer by measuring the circumference with a tape like the tailors use, then divided by 10 to find where 36 degrees would be, and I'm using that mark. At full advance it stays right at the 10 degree ATDC mark on the timing pointer. TDC should show as 36 advanced using that mark. With the vaccum can connected I get another 16 degrees for a total of 42. Anyway you slice it, I'm missing 10 degrees mechanical.

do it the other way....set timing to 36* at 2500-2800 rpm and then see what your degrees/rpm is at idle....the lightest springs will do exactly what you described they will bring in full advance early....so set the distributor timing for 36* at 2500 rpm and then check initial idle....you may be surprised to find the initial setting didn't change much.. you really should buy a dial back timing light you will not regret it...thenyou can actually measure the advance curve every 2*
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Originally Posted by bobs77vet
do it the other way....set timing to 36* at 2500-2800 rpm and then see what your degrees/rpm is at idle....the lightest springs will do exactly what you described they will bring in full advance early....so set the distributor timing for 36* at 2500 rpm and then check initial idle....you may be surprised to find the initial setting didn't change much.. you really should buy a dial back timing light you will not regret it...thenyou can actually measure the advance curve every 2*
That was how I started out. It would only drop to 26* when at idle (750 rpm). I have ordered a totally new HEI distributor from Summit. I'm just too impatient to futz around with this one anymore.
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