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Old May 20, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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We just got done doing the top end on our 68 327. We had the valves seats done and new springs and the heads were ported. We put a Edelbrock 2701 intake on. The engine runs well but when you let off the gas you get popping noise like backfiring through the exhaust.. Any idea what can be causing this? Again its only when you let off the throttle
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Old May 20, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Lean mixture.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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I would think the opposite. Unburnt hydrocarbons igniting in the exhaust due to a too rich condition.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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Lean mixture and/or late timing.
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Old May 21, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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By late timing do you mean to far Advanced?
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Old May 21, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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my c5 does this. i think it sounds cool lol.
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"By late timing do you mean to far Advanced?"

Nope, retarded.
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Old May 21, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Leaky header gasket or loose header bolts. Air leaks in the exhaust can cause that.

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Old May 21, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FeedVaal
I would think the opposite. Unburnt hydrocarbons igniting in the exhaust due to a too rich condition.
On backing off the motor is getting fuel from somewhere. In a holley it is usually the transfer slots
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Old May 21, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Leaky header gasket or loose header bolts. Air leaks in the exhaust can cause that.

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I agree
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I get the same thing on my 69 / 350 when I get the mixture on the lean side. I tend to run with a slight pop-pop when I let off the gas....
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There may be some confusion here.

There is a big difference between the pop pop pop when you let off the gas with a very low backpressure exhaust and the very loud bang of a real explosion in the exhaust created by raw gas mixture igniting in the exhaust system itself.

I have been experiencing the latter and i believe as Norval that the carb is putting fuel into the system with both throttle plates closed.
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Any advice on how to check or adjust the holley carb for this condition?
We were very carfull adjusting valve lash we went 5/8 past 0 lash on the valves. Could the valve lash be causing such a problem? Also I notice that if I let the throttle off slowly back to Idle it does not do it only when you run the engine up and then take your foot off. Seams to be more noticable from higher RPMs say above 2000 then it is below 2000.

The only other thing I notice is the vacuum seams to be higher now then before the rebuild. It will go to about 23 when i raise the rpm to 2500 to 3000 range and hold it there in the garage and at idle seams to be hanging around 15. These numbers appear to be sevel point higher then befor the Head work and new intake. Not sure if this higher vacuum would require the power valve to be changed. The other change we did was removed the headers and underbelly exhaust and put the original manifolds and original 69 side pipes back on.

As always thanks for the input

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I got it too. I don't think mine is due to a lean condition. It was popping when I was running a little rich and leaving black carbon deposits on my driveway where the side exhaust dumps. I lean the carb out a little and that seemed to help. I think I'm still running a little rich. Timing is around 20deg.

I think my side ehaust must be leaking some air into the side pipes. It's primarily on the passenger side. Same side that I was getting more carbon deposits.

Other than that, it runs like a raped ape.
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Originally Posted by MPSJM
Any advice on how to check or adjust the holley carb for this condition?
We were very carfull adjusting valve lash we went 5/8 past 0 lash on the valves. Could the valve lash be causing such a problem? Also I notice that if I let the throttle off slowly back to Idle it does not do it only when you run the engine up and then take your foot off. Seams to be more noticable from higher RPMs say above 2000 then it is below 2000.

The only other thing I notice is the vacuum seams to be higher now then before the rebuild. It will go to about 23 when i raise the rpm to 2500 to 3000 range and hold it there in the garage and at idle seams to be hanging around 15. These numbers appear to be sevel point higher then befor the Head work and new intake. Not sure if this higher vacuum would require the power valve to be changed. The other change we did was removed the headers and underbelly exhaust and put the original manifolds and original 69 side pipes back on.

As always thanks for the input

If u have higher vacuum at idle then maybe u could use more initial advance. Since the vac adv should already be full in from the previous lower vac adjustment with the same vac canister. U can change cans to match ur new idle vac but to get more adv u will have to add more initial adv.
And thats what vac adv is for - low speed/low load cruise or throttle back-down.
I check my vac can with a Mighty Vac brake hand pump that has a vac gauge. I pop the dist cap and watch the timing plate move as i increase vac. Mine is set for full vac adv at 15"Hg and none at 4&1/2-5"Hg.
Hope this helps. cardo0
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