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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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The book says to find TDC and then rotate crankshaft 90 degrees. How do you know where 90 degrees is from your start point, or 180 or 270 for that matter?

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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Unless you have a fully-degreed damper, you don't. That's why setting valves this way is theoretical. Better to do it a cylinder at a time -fool proof.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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You need a degree wheel.

Originally Posted by yellow71
The book says to find TDC and then rotate crankshaft 90 degrees. How do you know where 90 degrees is from your start point, or 180 or 270 for that matter?

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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Depends on where the engine is. If it's in the car and you can't get your face in front of the motor, go steal your wife/girlfriend's cloth sewing tape measure and measure the circumference of your harmonica balancer as accurately as possible. My sewing tape is marked in millimeters (no, you can't come over and borrow it) -- use that side if it has one (and if you don't have a cloth sewing tape measure lying around, go to a fabric shop and buy one -- they are very handy for working on cars).

Take that length and divide by four. That's how long each quadrant is. Next, wrap the tape back around the harmonic balancer and hold it in place with a piece of tape or something. Rotate the crankshaft one turn marking each quadrant with some of her red nail polish.

That's how I do such things. Except I own all that stuff myself.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Shucks, and I was just trying to give him a simple way to do it without any Pi an' that sorto' thing.

We're going to have to get a moderator assigned to you. Everytime you answer a question everyone's head starts to hurt from so much cypherin' an' such.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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The chart I have for setting valves only requires 180 degrees and TDC. I have a degreed wheel but you could just eyeball 180 degrees from TDC and put a mark. My way requires setting certain valves at TDC, rotate 180 and set others, back to TDC and once more to BDC and you are done.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gerry72
Shucks, and I was just trying to give him a simple way to do it without any Pi an' that sorto' thing.

We're going to have to get a moderator assigned to you. Everytime you answer a question everyone's head starts to hurt from so much cypherin' an' such.
My post had nothing to do with Pi!

I'm surprised you weren't more upset by the use of sewing supplies and nail polish.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tallgirl
My post had nothing to do with Pi!

I'm surprised you weren't more upset by the use of sewing supplies and nail polish.
What was upsetting was the misuse of the word "harmonica"!
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valves are set w/ the lifter on the base circle, just watch the rockers and you will easily see which ones are open and that means the other is on the heel (or base circle). It doesn't take very accurate degree measurements to do it.
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Originally Posted by tallgirl
My post had nothing to do with Pi!

I'm surprised you weren't more upset by the use of sewing supplies and nail polish.
Are you kidding? Nothing (including feminine hygene products) is out of bounds in my house when it comes to creative adaptation to wrenching on the garage queens. I have a tube of Chapstick on my work bench just for use on carb gaskets.
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