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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 01:29 AM
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Hi all,

Well I go down to the garage today and it smells really strongly like fuel. I look under the car and under the front RHS is a puddle of gas! I have a look under the car and it appears to be dripping from the fuel pump.

At first I figured it was the rubber hoses going to the base of the fuel pump, but after wiping the pump area clean and watching a couple of times it appears that the leak is actually coming from the top of the pump which looks like a large o-ring seal, around the top of the cylindrical part of the pump.

The car is a stock '70 350 SB.

On to my questions, Is there actually a seal there, and is the seal replacable, or do you have to change the whole pump?

How much trouble is it to replace, would I have to remove the AirCon compressor or can you take it out from below?

Finally the thing that troubles me is that the pump looks quite new, is it common for the pumps to fail here, or does it suggest it is just a faulty/cheap unit?

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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I think they tend to leak from that top hole if the diaphragm goes, but don't quote me on that If you need a new pump, I have a stock style one from Napa on my car that I'd be willing to sell you since I got a new high performance unit that I need to get to installing anyhow How does $20 + shipping sound? It only has around 1000 miles on it or so, but I got it before I was planning on swapping to a much higher output engine

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 05:30 AM
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Cosmic can probably pick up one locally for less than the shipping to Australia. Lots of Chev parts here.
Stock fuel pumps are sealed units and you will have to replace it. Pumps do wear out and fail. Quality units should last at least 10 years and most last the (expected ) life of the car.
Not sure how easy it is to replace from below. If you can't find one in Sydney I can recommend several suppliers in Melbourne.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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The first time I did a fuel pump on a Corvette, looked the situation over & pulled the right front tire & used long extensions. Have posted that tip many times. Esp. for A/C.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Thanks for the tip Ganey.

Dath, thanks for your offer dude...but yeah, shipping might cost me a bit to Australia! it was a very nice gesture and I appreciate it.

RHD- thanks for your help. You know, I emailed AC Delco yesterday but they still havent replied. So I will give a few places a call today and see what I come up with.

My vette is meant to be going into a show this weekend...and I have a tight schedule this week with work.

I don't know whether it is safe enough to drive to my mechanic to fix? although I would like to fix it myself so I will have to see what my bf thinks.

Will let you know how it goes. What a bummer! if its not one thing its another.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Default i recommend a Carter Pump

not the edelbrock or holley style, I had the edelbrock and fuel pressure was all over the place, sometimes 4 lbs. psi, sometimes 9 lbs. psi.

Not sure about the AC Delco pump.

Replace the hoses and clamps while you are at it.

Hope you get it to the show this weekend
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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No problem, didn't notice you were over on the other side of the pond If you haven't ever replaced a pump, another recommendation in addition to what Ganey said (he is correct, makes it much easier) is to use a long bolt through the front of the engine to hold the fuel pump rod in place when you put the new pump on. There will be a bolt hole with a shorter bolt in it, just take the short one out and *GENTLY* put a longer one in once you have pushed the pump rod all the way up into the hole. It holds the rod in place nicely and keeps you from having to use one of half a dozen other tricks that all can be frustrating when there isn't much space to work in.

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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Easier than that is just to lube up with rod with some good grease and slide it up into place. The grease will hold the rod in place as you install the pump. Worked like a charm for me.

cosmic... swapping out the fuel pump is a piece of cake. You can have it done in 30 minutes in your garage.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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thanks for the help dudes...I appreciate the tips.

looks like Im going to tackle this one myself then

Regarding the LUBE tip....I don't know if I read it when searching through the forum archives..but does the LUBE get into/soak into places that it shouldn't?

not that I really care at this stage...Im happy to give it ago..armed with the advice from you guys!
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Greasing it won't hurt anything, but I had no luck with that technique myself. The damn thing would stick for a few seconds, then I'd just about get everything lined up and bam, out it would slide. The bolt really is the easiest way in my opinion. Some people also use a hacksaw blade to hold it up in place and then slide the blade out once the pump handle is holding the rod in place. Just too much messing around in a tight space IMHO.

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Another idea is to lube it. Than put the rod in the freezer for a while makes the lube thick and will hold in their great
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Default Longer bolt works best _ JUST Don't Forget

to swap it out after puttiung the pump in
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