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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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I'm pulling the engine and transmission on my 77. Radiator and shroud are out. My question is, should or can I pull them together or is it easier to do them separately.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Separate unless you have the complete radiator support bracket out and some extra hands. Drain everything (twice) unless you don't mind cleaning up messes.

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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i like pulling my together...i think its easier...you will have to jack the front end of the car up to clear the tail shaft on the tranny when coming out...some guys on here have some pictures of doing this if you will do a search or they might post em up...good luck!
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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I pull SBC w4 spd or automatics as one. I have a tilter and long ram hoist to do it from the front. You need the tilter to get it in/out,otherwise split them.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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I just pulled mine last week and did it as a unit with 4 speed attached, no problems at all. As previously stated, removing the right front wheel so the hoist can go under the spindle is necessary. Put a couple of jackstands on the frame behind the front wheels to support the front end with the wheel off. DON'T put the whole car on jackstands, it'll go over backwards when you pull the motor. I have a picture of mine 3/4 the way out, if you send me your address I'll forward it to you.

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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as one its easier
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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As one!
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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We pulled the engine and transmission in one piece, I'd definetly reccommend a tilter like gtr1999 said, I got to be the tilter, boy was that heavy
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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I like to disagree so I will. I pull the trans out first then pull the engine and bellhousing as one. I don't even have to pull the hood or the radiator. It is a little tight but can be done. I will be doing this again this weekend or next. Done it many times. We will be doing it on another car with an automatic in a month or two the same way. We leave the automatic in the car and just pull the engine.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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Gordon I'll agree on the way you're doing it- with the rad installed,it's not the way I'd do the job but it will work if speed is an issue.

I always remove the hoood,rad and support.

1- it's a good time to have the rad checked/replaced.
2- check the support for common rust repair
3-less chance of hitting those parts and damaging them.
4-I clean,weld, and paint the frame and eng compartment.

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bobs77vet
as one its easier

I pulled mine last week. I wil add that an "engine leveler" was a must.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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do them together, its much easier, just hook the lift to the engine so that it gives a slight tilt with the front of the engine coming out at a higher angle. I just did mine a few weeks ago, no problems.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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TopGunn, the car is up on stands with the whole suspension off, rear differential is off, and gas tank basically empty. Is there still a risk of it being too unbalanced when I pull the engine?
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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TopGunn, the car is up on stands with the whole suspension off, rear differential is off, and gas tank basically empty. Is there still a risk of it being too unbalanced when I pull the engine?

if it hasn't tipped over yet you are ok.....you can always put jack stands under the frame rails in front of the front wheels for added support
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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TopGunn, the car is up on stands with the whole suspension off, rear differential is off, and gas tank basically empty. Is there still a risk of it being too unbalanced when I pull the engine?
Well if the rear diff is out then most of the weight is gone so you might be OK but I would add jackstands under the frame members in the rear (where the tank was) as additional support. I can GUARENTEE it will go over with the differential installed, I just started to lift the engine on mine as a test and the car immediately came off the front jackstands. Put a couple in the rear and you should be fine.

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Is the simple answer to not put the car on jack stands execpt the one front wheel that needs to be removed to use the lift?

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Is the simple answer to not put the car on jack stands execpt the one front wheel that needs to be removed to use the lift?

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Yes but the problem is if you support the front of the car in the middle, the jackstand is in the way and you can't slide the lift in and out. You need it behind the front wheel so it's clear under the car. You have to raise the front end a fair distance to get adequate clearance from the hub, if you just raise the right front wheel without raising the car evenly it would put alot of twist on the frame.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGunn
Yes but the problem is if you support the front of the car in the middle, the jackstand is in the way and you can't slide the lift in and out. You need it behind the front wheel so it's clear under the car. You have to raise the front end a fair distance to get adequate clearance from the hub, if you just raise the right front wheel without raising the car evenly it would put alot of twist on the frame.

Actually I did the whole thing with the car level on the ground. I spent a week or so removing everything that I could but the motor and transmission mounts bolts. Those bolts I just loosen. Next I jacked the Left front up just enough to take the left tire off. Then lowered the car on a jack stand that I placed just behind the pitman arm. The rest is history. The key is being able to tilt the motor and trans. The engine leveler is a must. I used two long chains attached to the heads in four places. The rest is history. In all I had to tilt the front of the engine up in the air about 45 degrees a little at a time until out she came.
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Oh OK you pulled from the front and raised the back of the car higher then the front so that you did not have to tilt the engine as much.
That works.

I pulled mine from the side.
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