Cutting the cross member
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Melting Slicks
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Cutting the cross member
I am about convinced that if I am going to run a serpentine setup on this BB (which I really want to do) I am going to have to consider cutting the crossmember. How big of a deal will this be??
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Originally Posted by 2th farmer
I am about convinced that if I am going to run a serpentine setup on this BB (which I really want to do) I am going to have to consider cutting the crossmember. How big of a deal will this be??
No problem at all with the motor out.
I did it for my blower pulley
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by 2th farmer
I am about convinced that if I am going to run a serpentine setup on this BB (which I really want to do) I am going to have to consider cutting the crossmember. How big of a deal will this be??
Sorry for my ignorance, but belts have been around for a long time, are as reliable as dirt, almost never fail and, when they do, everyone carries them. Other than looks what does a serpentine belt do for you?Sorry, just MHO.
Gary
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Originally Posted by GaryS
CUT THE CROSSMEMBER so you can run a serpentine belt? Sorry for my ignorance, but belts have been around for a long time, are as reliable as dirt, almost never fail and, when they do, everyone carries them. Other than looks what does a serpentine belt do for you?
Sorry, just MHO.
Gary
Sorry for my ignorance, but belts have been around for a long time, are as reliable as dirt, almost never fail and, when they do, everyone carries them. Other than looks what does a serpentine belt do for you?Sorry, just MHO.
Gary
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From: Park Ridge IL
Originally Posted by 2th farmer
I am about convinced that if I am going to run a serpentine setup on this BB (which I really want to do) I am going to have to consider cutting the crossmember. How big of a deal will this be??
As Norval said, if you've got the tools - cutoff wheel and can weld - it's no problem at all.
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This is a last resort but I just want to see what is involved. I have spent the day looking for a serpentine system that will work and am getting frustrated. If I notch the crossmember, I can use the front compact system by March.[IMG]
[/IMG] The engine is out
[/IMG] The engine is out
Last edited by 2th farmer; Feb 12, 2006 at 06:56 PM.
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Originally Posted by 2th farmer
This is a last resort but I just want to see what is involved. I have spent the day looking for a serpentine system that will work and am getting frustrated. If I notch the crossmember, I can use the front compact system by March.[IMG][/IMG] The engine is out
[/IMG] The engine is out
Last edited by norvalwilhelm; Feb 12, 2006 at 07:43 PM.
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From: Big Pine Key FL
Originally Posted by 2th farmer
This is a last resort but I just want to see what is involved. I have spent the day looking for a serpentine system that will work and am getting frustrated. If I notch the crossmember, I can use the front compact system by March.[IMG][/IMG] The engine is out
[/IMG] The engine is outDid you try these guys....
http://www.jonesracingproducts.com/
I use a bunch of their stuff...
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Originally Posted by 84rzv500r
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From: Moon Township PA
Originally Posted by 2th farmer
Why do you think EVERY new car made in the last 20 years has had a serpentine belt? PLUS it looks damn good!
Maybe you didn't notice, but your car wasn't built in the last 20 years. The point of my post was to say that doing something as radical as cutting your cross member so your 30 year old car can look a little newer seems, well, a bit radical. I am of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school of engineering. Kind of like, why change to a pointless ignition when points will still allow you to drive home, even as they are failing. Millions and millions of cars have multiple belts and no serpentine belts and run reliably for tens of thousands of miles without fail.
OK, off my soapbox. Just don't read more into my post than I intended.
Gary
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Originally Posted by GaryS
Maybe you didn't notice, but your car wasn't built in the last 20 years. The point of my post was to say that doing something as radical as cutting your cross member so your 30 year old car can look a little newer seems, well, a bit radical. I am of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school of engineering. Kind of like, why change to a pointless ignition when points will still allow you to drive home, even as they are failing. Millions and millions of cars have multiple belts and no serpentine belts and run reliably for tens of thousands of miles without fail.
OK, off my soapbox. Just don't read more into my post than I intended.
Gary
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From: Unreconstructed, South Carolina
Originally Posted by 2th farmer
Why do you think EVERY new car made in the last 20 years has had a serpentine belt? PLUS it looks damn good!
If you had the time to scrounge a junkyard ... you might find something off a suburban, pu etc that'd work for you ... without hacking up your frame.
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Brent, Don't sweat cutting the crossmember....IMHO 
When you get around to installing that Tremec, you will be wrestling with whether or not to cut the rear transmission crossmember. If you decide to put a scatter shield on this torque monster, I am pretty sure I know what direction you will choose 
Yes it will be easy if you install the engine and transmission as one, but don't forget, someday you will want to change that clutch.
Bullshark
When you get around to installing that Tremec, you will be wrestling with whether or not to cut the rear transmission crossmember. If you decide to put a scatter shield on this torque monster, I am pretty sure I know what direction you will choose Yes it will be easy if you install the engine and transmission as one, but don't forget, someday you will want to change that clutch.Bullshark
Last edited by Bullshark; Feb 13, 2006 at 10:52 AM.
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Brent, Looking at your post about March pulleys I noticed the pictures that PolishMike posted. Looks like he has a BB w/short WP and a damper pulley that has no offset. If you used that stuff you would not need to notch the crossmember but you would have to mount the accessories out wide.
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From: Clinton IL
Originally Posted by 2th farmer
This is a last resort but I just want to see what is involved. I have spent the day looking for a serpentine system that will work and am getting frustrated. If I notch the crossmember, I can use the front compact system by March.[IMG][/IMG] The engine is out
[/IMG] The engine is out