Fan Shroud Bypass Flap?
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Fan Shroud Bypass Flap?
I have a flap on the bottom of the fan shroud on my 80 L82. It looks like someone cut out a section then reconnected it with hinges. What this does is allow air to bypass the radiator. With the way C3's have problems cooling, I don't understand this flap at all.
Has anyone else ever seen this? Please tell me it was just some YAHOO having fun with his new jigsaw.
One other question. My 77 and my other 80 have seven-blade fans. The L82 has a five-blade which aren't equidistant from each other. Which fan is better?
Has anyone else ever seen this? Please tell me it was just some YAHOO having fun with his new jigsaw.
One other question. My 77 and my other 80 have seven-blade fans. The L82 has a five-blade which aren't equidistant from each other. Which fan is better?
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Mbuschsr (01-31-2017)
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The flap was used in conjunction with the electric fan. The fan provides engine cooling at low or no speed. The flap would open at higher speeds when air flow through the radiator was sufficient for engine cooling. The air flow through the flap was for engine compartment cooling. By the late 70's, engine compartment temps were soaring and everyone knows about the heat in the passenger compartment problem.
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The flap was to release pressure at high speed. The 7 blade fans pull more air & neither the 5 or 7 have the blades equidistant.
L-82 W/ A/C 7 blade or 5 blade + aux. el. fan, depends on year.
L-82 W/ A/C 7 blade or 5 blade + aux. el. fan, depends on year.
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Originally Posted by PairOf80s
...I have a flap on the bottom of the fan shroud on my 80 L82...Has anyone else ever seen this?...The L82 has a five-blade which aren't equidistant from each other. Which fan is better?
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I figured it would be better to bump an old thread than start a new. But boy I am I having a hard time wrapping my head around my '79 cooling system.
At highway speeds, with that super dense A/C condenser and the flap at the bottom of the shroud wide open, I don't see how any air is really moving through the radiator.
My only thought right now is that my electric fan, which does operate, but not well, performed at a much higher level when new.
I just ordered the SPAL 006 electric fan kit. I hope that it will bring the setup back to factoryish cooling. Hopefully better. Because right now I'm overheating, with all new cooling components.
At highway speeds, with that super dense A/C condenser and the flap at the bottom of the shroud wide open, I don't see how any air is really moving through the radiator.
My only thought right now is that my electric fan, which does operate, but not well, performed at a much higher level when new.
I just ordered the SPAL 006 electric fan kit. I hope that it will bring the setup back to factoryish cooling. Hopefully better. Because right now I'm overheating, with all new cooling components.
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Is your engine a stock L82? If not what motor or major modifications?
Do you have both the valance AND its plastic extension installed under the front end? Without both air will not be directed properly.
The radiator is also surrounded by closed cell foam pieces. Closed cell foam both fills gaps and stops air movement. Are yours present/intact?
Also define "overheating". If you have the stock temperature gauge notice that TDC is 220F instead of the FAR more common 200F. By design the stock cooling fan doesn't turn come on until the temp reaches about 238F!
I'm fairly certain that the auxiliary cooling fan was intended to kick in only at idle/very low speed with A/C running in very hot weather. This is why it was only included with A/C equipped cars with the L82 engine.
I also have a '79 L82 and while I know that the fan works, I don't believe it has ever come on during driving. While I live in a very hot climate I'm far from traffic jams and enjoy spirited driving on winding, hilly, rural roads. At interstate speed (WELL above the 55mph limit when our cars were new*) or repeated wide-open throttle events during hot weather I have seen the temp gauge creep up above 220F (top center gauge) but it hits a ceiling around 230F. I once thought my temp gauge was off and the electric fan was kicking in but I lightly taped the blades in place to find it intact after such a run. During normal driving at speeds rarely above 55 mph and regardless of outside temp my gauge rarely goes above 200F.
That crude looking spring-loaded door in the shroud looks crude because it was a modification done during the assembly process. It was discontinued (in 1981 I believe) when the engineers found it had little or no effect on engine cooling.
Do you have both the valance AND its plastic extension installed under the front end? Without both air will not be directed properly.
The radiator is also surrounded by closed cell foam pieces. Closed cell foam both fills gaps and stops air movement. Are yours present/intact?
Also define "overheating". If you have the stock temperature gauge notice that TDC is 220F instead of the FAR more common 200F. By design the stock cooling fan doesn't turn come on until the temp reaches about 238F!
I'm fairly certain that the auxiliary cooling fan was intended to kick in only at idle/very low speed with A/C running in very hot weather. This is why it was only included with A/C equipped cars with the L82 engine.
I also have a '79 L82 and while I know that the fan works, I don't believe it has ever come on during driving. While I live in a very hot climate I'm far from traffic jams and enjoy spirited driving on winding, hilly, rural roads. At interstate speed (WELL above the 55mph limit when our cars were new*) or repeated wide-open throttle events during hot weather I have seen the temp gauge creep up above 220F (top center gauge) but it hits a ceiling around 230F. I once thought my temp gauge was off and the electric fan was kicking in but I lightly taped the blades in place to find it intact after such a run. During normal driving at speeds rarely above 55 mph and regardless of outside temp my gauge rarely goes above 200F.
That crude looking spring-loaded door in the shroud looks crude because it was a modification done during the assembly process. It was discontinued (in 1981 I believe) when the engineers found it had little or no effect on engine cooling.
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KingpenM3 (01-31-2017)
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I have dual Spal fans and the accompanying shroud has many rubber flaps...roughly 2x3" in size.....at 20 mph+ surely they are open....but they suck closed with the tight shroud and install I did.....I note that the fans turn off about 40 mph even with A/C on.....but that's the FI computer programming..... Spal fans suck, real good.....
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I'm fairly certain that the auxiliary cooling fan was intended to kick in only at idle/very low speed with A/C running in very hot weather. This is why it was only included with A/C equipped cars with the L82 engine.
I also have a '79 L82 and while I know that the fan works, I don't believe it has ever come on during driving. While I live in a very hot climate I'm far from traffic jams and enjoy spirited driving on winding, hilly, rural roads. At interstate speed (WELL above the 55mph limit when our cars were new*) or repeated wide-open throttle events during hot weather I have seen the temp gauge creep up above 220F (top center gauge) but it hits a ceiling around 230F. I once thought my temp gauge was off and the electric fan was kicking in but I lightly taped the blades in place to find it intact after such a run. During normal driving at speeds rarely above 55 mph and regardless of outside temp my gauge rarely goes above 200F.
I also have a '79 L82 and while I know that the fan works, I don't believe it has ever come on during driving. While I live in a very hot climate I'm far from traffic jams and enjoy spirited driving on winding, hilly, rural roads. At interstate speed (WELL above the 55mph limit when our cars were new*) or repeated wide-open throttle events during hot weather I have seen the temp gauge creep up above 220F (top center gauge) but it hits a ceiling around 230F. I once thought my temp gauge was off and the electric fan was kicking in but I lightly taped the blades in place to find it intact after such a run. During normal driving at speeds rarely above 55 mph and regardless of outside temp my gauge rarely goes above 200F.
Is there a consensus on what to do with this door? I put a lot of effort into bringing it back into operating condition (it was just zip tied on one side). But I'll close it or open it up if that would help. Thanks again for all the info.
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