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I actually got that tip from tv.. i dont kno if it was american hot rod, or some motorcycle build.. all i kno is it worked.. my friend got good results leaving it dry, but he wanted to tear his skin apart from all the fiberglass in his arms... i didn't have any issues with that really, but it did seem to dry and become tighter and stiffer...
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I soaked mine in a tub of water for a couple minutes before wrapping my headers. Norval suggested that I do that. I decided to try wrapping a little with it dry just for comparisons sake. Don't even waste your time doing it dry.
Any thoughts on wetting the wrap before applying in order to get a tight wrap as suggested above??
I have done it a number of times and it doesn't work dry. Wet it, what have you got to loose??
Wet it is more piable and when it dries it is nice and tight.
didn't you see the pictures I post earilier?? That is a nice wrap
While the wrap does a good job of keeping the heat in the pipe, it will literally cook the metal. Most carbon steel headers are going to start to break down at the molecular level when the temps reach above 850 degrees. I wrapped a pair of Hedmans about 10 years ago, and when I pulled the pipes the metal literally crumbled in my hands. I would get them coated. If you count the cost of the wrap, clamps and the labor to do it yourself, you could pay for the coating.
I don't believe a coating is going to insulate the engine compartment from radiated heat like the header wrap does. A good test would be to guess which one would burn your finger faster, a coated header or a wrapped one. Header wrap works like a pot holders does in the kitchen, it slows down the flow of heat.
I'd rather cook the headers than the wiring harnesses, rubber components and fuel lines under the hood.
I don't believe a coating is going to insulate the engine compartment from radiated heat like the header wrap does. A good test would be to guess which one would burn your finger faster, a coated header or a wrapped one. Header wrap works like a pot holders does in the kitchen, it slows down the flow of heat.
I'd rather cook the headers than the wiring harnesses, rubber components and fuel lines under the hood.
Brian/Vetter? and I can really test this over the summer. Both of us started with new headers, his coated inside and out mine freshly wrapped. We will be comparing header temperatures after a hard run to decide which is better from the heat retention point of view.
His are triple coated, a black inside barrier to prevent heat escaping plus a double outside thermo coat.
I will post on this later in the year.
being a heat freak ive wrapped for years. yes most definately for sure it will decrease the life of the headers. the cheaper the header the faster they will go away. how fast? my hooker super comps lasted 4 years until they blew a little hole. the way i look at it , the decrease in heat is worth the several hundred bucks every 5 yrs. soaking wet for 30 minutes works great. dont be in a rush when you do this. 3/8" overlap and stainless tie wire at the beginning and at the end.
When i wet them b4 installation I didn't even use the ties that i had bought.. I just double wrapped where i started and held that section until i started wrapping the rest of the header.. when they dried they were very tight at the top, i doubt they will come loose.. it gives the headers a much cleaner look in my opinion
I have done it a number of times and it doesn't work dry. Wet it, what have you got to loose??
Wet it is more piable and when it dries it is nice and tight.
didn't you see the pictures I post earilier?? That is a nice wrap
Yes that was a very nice job. when I put my motor I'm going to wrap my headers. yours looked very cool.