Borg Warner T5 in a C3
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From: Merrick NY
Borg Warner T5 in a C3
I have my T5 in the car, and an concerned about the clearance from the top of the case to the tunnel floor. After a few searches using 'T5' and 'borg warner' I came up with nothing. corvettefaq has 5-speed swaps but no T5 info.
Do I have to be concerned with clearance?
I'm purchasing a plum-line level to re-check the pinion angle and hope I have to come down enough to get the top of the tranny from sitting against the tunnel floor.
Any info available on this swap?
Thanks in advance as always.
Do I have to be concerned with clearance?
I'm purchasing a plum-line level to re-check the pinion angle and hope I have to come down enough to get the top of the tranny from sitting against the tunnel floor.
Any info available on this swap?
Thanks in advance as always.
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Originally Posted by Stumpdeisel
I have my T5 in the car, and an concerned about the clearance from the top of the case to the tunnel floor. After a few searches using 'T5' and 'borg warner' I came up with nothing. corvettefaq has 5-speed swaps but no T5 info.
Do I have to be concerned with clearance?
I'm purchasing a plum-line level to re-check the pinion angle and hope I have to come down enough to get the top of the tranny from sitting against the tunnel floor.
Any info available on this swap?
Thanks in advance as always.
Do I have to be concerned with clearance?
I'm purchasing a plum-line level to re-check the pinion angle and hope I have to come down enough to get the top of the tranny from sitting against the tunnel floor.
Any info available on this swap?
Thanks in advance as always.
No you will not have a problem with the T5.
Check out Bernie's T5 installation.
No clearance problems.
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From: Merrick NY
Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
Anyone doing a mustang T5 is using the same case as you, mustang and chevy T5's share alot of parts, particularly the case, Chevy changes the holes for chevy but if you compare the cases they are the same other then the holes.
No you will not have a problem with the T5.
Check out Bernie's T5 installation.
No clearance problems.
No you will not have a problem with the T5.
Check out Bernie's T5 installation.
No clearance problems.
Thanks Norval, it's a Chevy WS T5, where can I find Bernie's T5 install info?
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On my T-5 conversion, my only clearance issue in that area was with the positive battery cable. I had to reroute it away and below the shift housing to the side of the lower part of the tunnel. I did make my own trans mount adapter and used a dense rubber mat about 1/8" thick which I was able to use as many layers as necessary (5) to get the height right.
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lowbuck,
It looks like you're using the canted checvy T5. And one pic is the rear mount to run it strait up?
What do you use for the bellhousing and clutch?
Gary
It looks like you're using the canted checvy T5. And one pic is the rear mount to run it strait up?
What do you use for the bellhousing and clutch?
Gary
Originally Posted by lowbuck72
On my T-5 conversion, my only clearance issue in that area was with the positive battery cable. I had to reroute it away and below the shift housing to the side of the lower part of the tunnel. I did make my own trans mount adapter and used a dense rubber mat about 1/8" thick which I was able to use as many layers as necessary (5) to get the height right.
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From: Knoxville Tennessee
Do a search on T5 swaps. Carguy4sure and I did it this winter and there are no clearance issues. I did not have a problem with the battery cable either. It was the best thing I have ever done to a car! I would do it again in a heartbeat!
Bernie
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I run a stock chevy bellhousing and clutch which eliminates the "cant" and yes, it's a WC T-5 out of a V8 Camaro. I love it, except I treat it more like a 4 speed with overdrive. It's a big gap between the 1:1 4th and the .68:1 fifth.
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Do the chevy T5s have an electronic or mechanical speedo output?
Originally Posted by lowbuck72
I run a stock chevy bellhousing and clutch which eliminates the "cant" and yes, it's a WC T-5 out of a V8 Camaro. I love it, except I treat it more like a 4 speed with overdrive. It's a big gap between the 1:1 4th and the .68:1 fifth.
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From: Merrick NY
Thanks for the replies all, for some reason "T5" in the search doesn't help me out, but searching via member names has gotten me lots of info.
Here's pics of my new tranny mount, which will have to be reset to a lower spot, and the shifter coming through the floor. It comes through at an anlge instead of straight up, but will hold off cutting until I re-adjust the tranny height. Has anyone gotten away without cutting the floor with this swap? With the tranny 1/2" to an 1" lower I'm thinking no cutting will be needed...
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rarroy...6b.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rarroy...52.jpg&.src=ph
Here's pics of my new tranny mount, which will have to be reset to a lower spot, and the shifter coming through the floor. It comes through at an anlge instead of straight up, but will hold off cutting until I re-adjust the tranny height. Has anyone gotten away without cutting the floor with this swap? With the tranny 1/2" to an 1" lower I'm thinking no cutting will be needed...
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rarroy...6b.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rarroy...52.jpg&.src=ph
Last edited by Stumpdeisel; Apr 13, 2006 at 11:26 AM.
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From: Merrick NY
Originally Posted by lowbuck72
On my T-5 conversion, my only clearance issue in that area was with the positive battery cable. I had to reroute it away and below the shift housing to the side of the lower part of the tunnel. I did make my own trans mount adapter and used a dense rubber mat about 1/8" thick which I was able to use as many layers as necessary (5) to get the height right.
Nice work. Does that shifter come straight up into the car? Mine comes up at an angle facing the driver's seat, see the 2 links in my post above...
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I used the Ford T5 and made the adapter plate so that it would come up at an angle. With a Hurst shifter kit it sits beside my leg at a great position easy to get to and shift. The hole I cut in my tunnel was probably 8 inches square to fit the top of the T5 up thru the opening. You want to get the rear of the T5 up in the tunnel as far as you can get it. You don't have to mess with the pinion angle or the driveshaft angle.
Bernie
Bernie
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My shifter comes up straight, see my previous pictures. Also my T5 origianlly came with an electronic speedo drive, but it comes right out and easily replaced with a cable driven unit. Before I built my engine, I used the bare block attached to the tranny to test fit and fabricate the mount and shifter location, measure how much to shorten driveshaft, etc. That way, later on, I knew everything would fit perfectly, which it did.
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Good job on your swap! What rear gears are you running? I have
3:55's and, although there is a gap between 4th and 5th, I can run in
5th in the 1500 range so long as I don't try to accelerate too fast or go up steep hills. The secret is shifting when you need to, to keep the car from lugging. If I'm at 2000 RPM or better in any gear, I can accelerate easily without lugging. I appreciate and enjoy this transmission more everytime I drive it; which is every chance I get!
Bernie
3:55's and, although there is a gap between 4th and 5th, I can run in
5th in the 1500 range so long as I don't try to accelerate too fast or go up steep hills. The secret is shifting when you need to, to keep the car from lugging. If I'm at 2000 RPM or better in any gear, I can accelerate easily without lugging. I appreciate and enjoy this transmission more everytime I drive it; which is every chance I get!
Bernie
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From: Amelia Ohio
Y'all left me out. I did the chev wc t5 from v8 f body. I've been searching the threads to link you to it but could not find. I used the camaro bell 10.4 flywheel with centerforce clutch. Same as everyone else on the hydraulics from the 85 truck. I cut down the camaro shifter and welded 5/8" plate to center the shifter and bolted hurst handle and **** in. The crossmember stayed the same I just shortened the bracket that the trans mounts to. This was too easy and highly recommended. Keep in mind Ford and Chevy if your running more than 300 hp you're going to stress it.
Chris
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I'm running the stock 3.36:1 . I built my motor for low end torque, 9 to 1 compression, 214 degree cam, performer intake, headers and a Q jet. It's happy and pulls 1200-1500 in top gear. Runs out of steam around 5500 rpm. 60 mph is around 1800 rpm.
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From: Living in the Hartland
Originally Posted by Garys 68
lowbuck,
Where did you get the electronic to mechanical speedo parts?
I've got a 3.08 rear end, sounds like I may have to get new gears if I want to use 5th in the swap.
Where did you get the electronic to mechanical speedo parts?
I've got a 3.08 rear end, sounds like I may have to get new gears if I want to use 5th in the swap.
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From: Amelia Ohio
Originally Posted by Fevre
The mech speedo fitting out of Muncie 4 speed plugs right into the T5, you have to modify the hold down bracket a touch but no biggie, not sure of the TH350 or 400 speedo fitting will work in the T5
Chris
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If you are running enough horses the 3:08's should be fine; but first and second gears are more fun with the bigger rear gears. If I ever changed my rear diff I may go to 3:36's but I like cruising at 70 MPH and turning a shade less than 2,200 Rpm's.
Bernie
Bernie