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Old May 31, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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I notice on many undercar pics on this forum the exhaust system is usuall welded instead of using clamps. I know when these vehicles came off the assembly line (as well as the new cars of today) the exhaust system is clamped together. What are the advantages/disadvantages does welding have over clamping?
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Old May 31, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Others may some extra insights but welds create a more rigid pipe that will not sag, leak or come apart. Some might think that clamped would have an advantage since they would be "removeable" but actually the clamps distort the pipes and are very difficult to get apart sometimes.
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Mine is welded in some areas but clamped in others. I use the wide band clamps which don't crush the pipes like those crappy U exhaust clamps. My system is easy to take apart and does not leak,
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Old May 31, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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As you said, the clamps are more original. If you cut slots in the outer pieces like the original pipes, they don't distort he inner pipe and can come apart. Places like Midas like to weld because it's cheaper, quicker and easier. It also won't leak if done properly, but neither will a properly clamped joint. Joe
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Old May 31, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
Mine is welded in some areas but clamped in others. I use the wide band clamps which don't crush the pipes like those crappy U exhaust clamps. My system is easy to take apart and does not leak,

Also, a trick I learned with side pipes, a thin bead of high temp rtv on the lip of the pipe going into the collector will eliminate possible leaks..got this tip from Hookers a few years back.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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If you have a built motor, you may find that the vibrations may loosen the clamps.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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The stock system was clamped where? Wasn't it one front section and one rear section? I thought the muffler was welded onto the rear section. Were the tips clamped on? If you use aftermarket mufflers and clamps you end up with an elbow in front of the muffler (2 clamps) and another elbow behind the muffler (2 more clamps) and the tips (1 more clamps) and it just gets to be all clamped up!
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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I like welded connections, but I can't imagine using them on a C3. I'm always taking it apart, I agree with Gordom and use the wide band clamps where ever they will work. They don't work with exhaust hangers.
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
Mine is welded in some areas but clamped in others. I use the wide band clamps which don't crush the pipes like those crappy U exhaust clamps. My system is easy to take apart and does not leak,
I was faced with the same delema a few weeks ago, I knew I'd be taking the thing apart for some reason and welding the system seemed like looking for trouble. I had the shop fabricate the system so it was put together with band clamps just after the crossmember as Gordonm suggested. Sure enough, I had to pull the clutch 2 weeks after I had it done and it came apart without a hitch and went back together the same way. The band clamps work great, just a very tiny hint of black soot where they joined but no leaking noise or fumes. I'm happy with the way I did mine

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I like it welded with only 1 set of clamps at the headers, well...clamps. I use a combination of a slip fit and a flange. I did this already on my truck, it's a normal 3 bolt plectrum shaped flange that bolts to the header but there's a smaller OD tube that is a tight fit into the header. that way you can scrape it all day long without the flange giving way and the gasket blowing out. I'm constantly scraping on speed bumps and haven't had a leak since where I was swapping gaskets weekly before.
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I have both welded and clamped joints in my system. I prefer the wide stainless band clamps that do not distort the pipes. As mentioned earlier, I use RTV with the clamps to eliminate leaks.
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