High tourque mini starter
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From: Peabody Ma.
High tourque mini starter
I have a 1981 with a manual trans, when I got my dual exhuast done the pipe is touching the starter = hard starting when hot. So I got a mini starter, my question, do the manual and automatic get different mini starters? It doesnt seem to fit right around the sheet metal @ the bell housing? also the nose of the starter doesnt seem long enough to reach the fly wheel? any thoughts? Thanks in advance
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I have an '81 automatic with headers that fried starters and went with a mini starter. I believe the flexplate on an auto and the flywheel on a manual have different numbers of teeth. I have read ads on some mini starters that specified the # of teeth it fits, but the one I bought said it fit both, and I think most do. The starter did not fit exactly to the sheet metal cover that goes over the torque converter, it had a small gap it left open that I fabricated a cover piece for. I don't know if this is similar to the problem you have or not, but the starter works great with no problems. God bless, Sensei
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
Automatic flexplates and manual flywheels both exist in 153 and 168 tooth versions.
I can see a 2.8 family engine needed a smaller fly, and smaller starter, but....for a 302 UP engine??
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would that make the nose of the starter longer or shorter? because it almost looks like it wont throw the gear out far enough? as for the fit around the sheet metal I think Sensi cleared that up? maybe Ill try again as the battery is dead!
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Originally Posted by bruced267
I have a 1981 with a manual trans, when I got my dual exhuast done the pipe is touching the starter = hard starting when hot. So I got a mini starter, my question, do the manual and automatic get different mini starters? It doesnt seem to fit right around the sheet metal @ the bell housing? also the nose of the starter doesnt seem long enough to reach the fly wheel? any thoughts? Thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
Staggered = 168 tooth wheel
Straight = 153 tooth wheel
Straight = 153 tooth wheel
I just swapped my '72 original style vette stick shift flywheel to a buddy for his later one piece main seal flywheel, same outer diameter....only exception being the inner bolt pattern on the crank....
now my '72 had straight bolts, and 168 teeth....14 come odd inches diameter....
my '89 roller engine here has the later fly/flex plate but staggered bolts and still 168 tooth/fly/flex.....
go figger.....I dunno, still like to know what was on their minds....
GENE
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Originally Posted by 73, Dark Blue 454
Batman is spot on. The same is true of aftermarket and mini starters.
My buddy called, had a boat he got without engine, I was destroyed...so he get another SBC built, goes to install it, the old fly will not fit 'new' engine....old fly had a 2" even center hole, 6 bolts on crank, one locating pin, and 14.125 inch diameter...I would say 14.25 whatever....ok....
I measure the old fly from my original '72 muncie vette engine....it was exact to what he needed....same diameter....so my engine I know is staggered starter holes later model '89 truck block 4 factory bolt mains....355, so it takes the small hole fly, and has a ~14 inch diameter fly/flex....
so go figger...I have a smaller diameter chebby flexplate and i'ts got a 2" center hole....would bolt up to my 355 no sweat....but too small a diamter....I remember having to shell out some high bux back in '97 for a plate that would work, and i'ts larger diameter with smaller holes...and the block definately takes a staggered starter as I just had to change it after 8 years in Florida.....
somehow I don't think that seems to reconcile with the above opinion....
anyone??
GENE