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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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I've been going over the timing on the vette today. It appears my vac adv canister is dead. Its a B26 that should add 16 degrees of advance.

I pulled the cap & rotor. The first thing I noticed was it took more force than I thought to push turn the "dial" on this MSD unit. It is spring loaded and turns in the counterclockwise direction, which I guess makes sense to add advance.

I hooked my mighy vac hand pump on the cannister and pumped it up to 17 HGs and it didn't move. Also, I couldn't advance it by hand either at that point.

My car pulls about 16 to 18 HGs at idle. My questions are...

1) I presume this can is shot, right?
2) Should I stick with this B26 can?
3) Should there be that much load against the vacuum advance inside the distributor?
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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the B26 adds 16º of advance starting at 5-7" HG and pegged at 11-13" HG so if your car produces 16-18" HG at idle the B26 should be fine. The B25 will also work at it's also 160 advance, starting at 5-7" HG all pegged out at 13-15" HG.
If your local store doesn't have a B26 in stock swapping to a B25 should work as well so see what they have.
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What do you mean by pegged out? Full advance?
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Somethin' ain't right here... When vacuum is applied to canister, should it push or pull the level??
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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It should pull the lever in

Sounds like your can is shot. Does it hold vacuum when applied. A new can is pretty cheap.
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack71
What do you mean by pegged out? Full advance?
yes, pegged out means it appliying the full amount of vacuum the can can deliever.
if you look at the specs on vacuum cans there are 3 importand specs to consider.
1. the amount of advance it will supply - in this case 8º of distributor advance (which is 16º of crank advance)
2. the level of vacuum it requires to start adding in advance - in the case of the B26 and B25 cans it's 5-7" HG.
3. the level of vacuum required to reach it's maximum amount of advance - on the B26 it's 11-13" HG, on the B25 it's 13-15" HG.

Usually you want a can that maxxes out or pegs out at an amount 2" below what your motor vacuum level is at idle
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Cool, I ordered a B25. Still not sure if the can is going to be able to pull this MSD dial. Its awfully stiff. I'll have to test that out...
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