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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Default Epoxy for lifter gallery screens

As susggested by other on another post on installing lifter valley screens I did go to a finer screen, I did double nut it and got rid of the nylon lock washers and I WILL expoxy along the edges.
My problem is what epoxy to use?
I have access to alot of good epoxys but I am afraid to trust just anything.
I am considering JB weld bond? It has a good reputation but will it stand the hot oil?
Anyone have an idea as to what the kits would use??
Thanks
This is an old shot of the coarer screen. I do have the new finer screen install, just no pictures.
I want to do all around the edges to prevent the tiny rollers from dropping into the pan if a roller rocker lets go.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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We use JB Weld on our drag motors without any failure. Takes the heat of nitro.
Clean with Brake Clean or something like it before applying.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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We use JB Weld on our drag motors without any failure. Takes the heat of nitro.
Clean with Brake Clean or something like it before applying.
Thank you 1BAD80. I have JB Weld and will use it.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Norval, before you epoxy 'em in place, use a wide putty knife or something similar to make a good "V" in the center of each screen. This will force the draining oil to drop straight down onto the cam lobes from the low point of the "V" rather than clinging to the underside of the cam tunnel and draining below the cam with hardly any dripping directly onto the cam lobes. I don't know that it does any good with the oil monsoon happening inside the engine but I've tried it on bare blocks and watched thru the cam tunnel and it makes a noticeable difference.
Moroso makes epoxy for that job but I'd probably try some good ol' J B Chemweld. I have a racing buddy witha silver dollar size piece of the side of his block held in place for over 5 years with it with no problems to this point.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by L88Plus
Norval, before you epoxy 'em in place, use a wide putty knife or something similar to make a good "V" in the center of each screen. This will force the draining oil to drop straight down onto the cam lobes from the low point of the "V" rather than clinging to the underside of the cam tunnel and draining below the cam with hardly any dripping directly onto the cam lobes. I don't know that it does any good with the oil monsoon happening inside the engine but I've tried it on bare blocks and watched thru the cam tunnel and it makes a noticeable difference.
Moroso makes epoxy for that job but I'd probably try some good ol' J B Chemweld. I have a racing buddy witha silver dollar size piece of the side of his block held in place for over 5 years with it with no problems to this point.
Great idea, I will do that on my next motor.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by L88Plus
Norval, before you epoxy 'em in place, use a wide putty knife or something similar to make a good "V" in the center of each screen. This will force the draining oil to drop straight down onto the cam lobes from the low point of the "V" rather than clinging to the underside of the cam tunnel and draining below the cam with hardly any dripping directly onto the cam lobes. .
Another good tip. Thank you
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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Norval,
Just out of curiosity, why did you ditch the lock nuts? Were you concerned that the nylon would break down when subjected to lots of hot oil? My screens are only epoxied in, so you have gone one step further, which is cool.

Nick
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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i was shooting for that groove thing too, but it's a little tough to do
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I just epoxied mine in,,but I punched little hole right above each lifter to get oil to drain onl lobes.


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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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seems like just about any ordinary screen configuration would be much better than no screen as far as oiling cam journals goes, i.e.,
without screen=little or no chance of additional oiling,
with screen (any configuration)=better than no screen,
just seems like . . . (maybe this thinking is flawed if the oil in that part of the engine is being whipped around too violently; i've don't ever recall seeing any discussion on this particular subject other than here)

as far as getting oil back to the sump, i wasn't aware that this area with screens was a bottleneck. also thought BB had inherently less problems (returning oil) than SB for some reason. was this wrong?
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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The main purpose of screening is to keep the possibility of any broken valve train parts from falling into the bottom end, a preventative measure.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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JB Weld was developed by inventor to repair Ford flathead blocks cracked by Winter freezing (something I don't have to deal with in California.) We have actually found JB Weld to work better than Moroso or Manley branded A-B type epoxy for cast iron blocks (A-B seems to hold better on aluminum parts, I think it has to do with the bigger heat expansion of aluminum compared to cast iron.)
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