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I am going to get my 79' painted over the winter and I have a connection that is going to to do it for me very cheap. I have to supply the materials though. I was wondering if any could sugest a good paint and clear coat brand that I should use. I want to go with a black, maybe even a metallic black. Thanks foy any input.
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Originally Posted by Jaybird907
I want to go with a black, maybe even a metallic black.
Can't tell you the specifics on the materials, but I can tell you that metallic black will look awesome
When people get within 10 feet of my car they notice the silver/gold metallic flakes and I always get many compliments. For the die-hard vette fanatics I think that metallic black is shunned as I had a few comments to the point at this years 'Vettes On The Rockies'. I was the only metallic black vette I saw out of over 900 vettes. From 70 through 76, NO vettes were painted black from the factory and definately not metallic black.
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Originally Posted by Jaybird907
I am going to get my 79' painted over the winter and I have a connection that is going to to do it for me very cheap. I have to supply the materials though. I was wondering if any could sugest a good paint and clear coat brand that I should use. I want to go with a black, maybe even a metallic black. Thanks foy any input.
Go with Dupont Nason and Chromabase brand, and I would suggest a 1948 code Chrysler black. Actually, does one of your Oreilly stores have a paint desk? Mine does, and they have professional grade primer, paint, and clear. Dupont is one of the better brands to get, and that black is a true black used since 1950. I have used it on several vehicles, and will use it on my Vette when I paint it.
Last edited by Durango_Boy; Aug 29, 2006 at 10:38 AM.
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Originally Posted by JonnHeather
Check with the guy who is going to spray. All clear coats lay on a little different and all painters prefer one brand over another. See what he likes to shoot...
But you may not like the price of what he shoots. A good painter will be able to shoot a paint no matter if it's his favorite or not. I do it, and if a customer brings me a box of spray paint cans...I'll say,
"Okay, but it's gonna look like it was spray painted..."
If he doesn't like your choice he'll have to give you a GOOD reason why he won't like using it.
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Originally Posted by JonnHeather
Check with the guy who is going to spray. See what he likes to shoot...
Unless the painter doesn't care. Most painters use only one brand/product and stick with it because they know the mix ratios and compatibilities between the different materials. Stick with one manufacturer to guarantee that all the chemicals throughout the process interact with each other and you'll have a good quality long lasting job.
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Also, are you doing the stripping yourself to lower the cost? It's very easy to get the car down to fiberglass and ready for priming. He'll have to do a final 1500 sand and then clean and prime, but 30% of the labor is getting the old paint off and the surface prepped for final sanding.
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Originally Posted by Jaybird907
I am going to get my 79' painted over the winter
I was wondering if any could suggest a good paint and clear coat brand that I should use.
I was wondering if any could suggest a good paint and clear coat brand that I should use.
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I do not have the experience/knowledge to compare one painting system to another. But I can comment on the job done on my Corvette in the period March-May 2005. There was 100+ hours of labour involved as I do not have the wherewithal or facilities to do this kind of work. The shop was a franchise/collision establishment (not MAACO) that takes in 4-5 classic cars per year, one at a time. These cars are worked on between fender-bender insurance jobs that are, of course, their bread and butter.
The manager had done fiberglass restoration for me in the past and he and his Shop Foreman know their stuff. So I was comfortable with their expertise. My last Corvette (1979) was done in 2000 in DuPont Chroma Premier by them and to this day, that paint still gleams. So I was a little taken aback when he in 2005 mentioned that he had changed to Sherwin-Williams. But after viewing his photo albums of other cars done with that paint I said go ahead.
Fast-forward to today. The paint has held up very nicely: no bubbling, no solvent pops, no cracking, etc. Needless to say I am happy with the job.
Here are the specs:
Sherwin-Williams Ultra 7000 System
Primer – P30W
Paint sealer & adhesion promoter – S65
Base color coat – Ultra 7000
Clear coat – CC639
The manager had done fiberglass restoration for me in the past and he and his Shop Foreman know their stuff. So I was comfortable with their expertise. My last Corvette (1979) was done in 2000 in DuPont Chroma Premier by them and to this day, that paint still gleams. So I was a little taken aback when he in 2005 mentioned that he had changed to Sherwin-Williams. But after viewing his photo albums of other cars done with that paint I said go ahead.
Fast-forward to today. The paint has held up very nicely: no bubbling, no solvent pops, no cracking, etc. Needless to say I am happy with the job.
Here are the specs:
Sherwin-Williams Ultra 7000 System
Primer – P30W
Paint sealer & adhesion promoter – S65
Base color coat – Ultra 7000
Clear coat – CC639
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Originally Posted by Jaybird907
Thanks for all the input. This forum is by far the best tool you can have if you own a corvette. 
Isn't that the frig'n truth. I want to destroy the oter forum I posted on. I'd usually wait an entire week before ever getting a responce, and by then I'd only have 5 views. Pitiful man.
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Originally Posted by paul67
Some of us here have been there, done that, several times. And didn't always get the t-shirt. But that's a plus: we fouled up and can tell others what not to do.
The only foul up I've made so far was selling the other two '77 Vettes I owned. I hate decisions sometimes.
