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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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i've been adviced to fix NGK BCPR5ES plugs in my 406ci engine, are they pretty performant plugs? cold enough for my application? thanks/Giu
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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I would use what the head manufacturer recommends or cross reference of the same plug, heat range would be your choice, what heads do you have ?
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I would use what the head manufacturer recommends or cross reference of the same plug, heat range would be your choice, what heads do you have ?
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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Check recommendation from your maufacturer, NKG's have a good rep, used by alot of ricers, not that there is any thing wrong with that. I use Champions and like them, but I get them free as I run thier vintage graphics on my car. A nice educational site I recommend:

www.edelbrock.com/automotive/sparkplugs.html

I'm running C57HCX as cold all out race plugs, and RC12YC (NASCAR) plugs for every day non race. The C57's load up at low RPM's. I can run a set of RC12's forever, (they have been in 9 months). The RC12 are available at most parts stores, they also come in 9's if you want to go colder. The primary issue to check is plug tip/piston clearance, a bunch of metal and ceramics rattling around in a cylinder just can't be good. I think 5's will be a problem for you, to cold for regular use.
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14mm x 3/4" gasket, do not use taper fit-Champion C59YC Autolite 3910 or 51, A/C R41 CXLS & NGK R5672A-9 is a good starting point. For street applications use AC FR3LS or Champion RC9YC spark plugs or equivalent.
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I would go with motorhead, he will know a 406 far better than I, I also agree anything colder than 9 will end up giving you problems unless you are racing.
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I am using NGK R5672A-8 in my Vic Jr. heads, they are a racing plug but they seem to work fine, they are a medium heat range - $3.69 at Jegs
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Motorhead, 8-9 are about as cold as I would run for regular use. For 3 months I would run my car, some idleing etc., after 3 starts it would not start again, fouled out plugs. The original builder/driver of my car, in his late 60's now would just bitch me out if I talked about putting in hotter plugs, he could never seem to understand I'm not running 4-6, 000 rpm's constantly, he's an original go fast guy. I had to **** him off when I switched to hot plugs for "regular" driving but have had no problems what so ever since going to a two set strategy, cold for racing, hot the rest of the time. live and learn..................
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my engine builder gave me 3 options which, on his opinion, are best choice for my application:

ngk BCPR5ES or BCP5EV or BCPR5EY

i know 5 grade is really pretty cold, maybe he thinks i drive over 4.000 rpm all the time

as a matter of fact, usually, i've always preferred to drive a colder plugs then a warmer ones, in my (little) experience with other high compression cars warm plugs has always been a headhache and cause of malfunctions.
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The numbering for spark plug heat ranges is not universal, some companies even go in the reverse direction eg. - the hotter plug is a higher number.

For NGK plugs the range ( that I know about ) is 11 (coldest) to 5 (hottest) so 8 is exactly in the middle, medium heat range.

Panic, AFR recommends the NGK R5672A for your heads, the info I posted above I got off there site
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
The numbering for spark plug heat ranges is not universal, some companies even go in the reverse direction eg. - the hotter plug is a higher number.

For NGK plugs the range ( that I know about ) is 11 (coldest) to 5 (hottest) so 8 is exactly in the middle, medium heat range.

Panic, AFR recommends the NGK R5672A for your heads, the info I posted above I got off there site
...so actually my engine builder has recommended to use the hottest of the ngk range (5)!! for a 570hp 10.00 compr rate engine with a 4.11 rear gear that usually does not get under 3.000rpm in street use, i think it is a total nonsense
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Some NGK plugs are made in France, I have the BCPR6ES now, the last set was French made, the ones I have now were made in Japan
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Some NGK plugs are made in France, I have the BCPR6ES now, the last set was French made, the ones I have now were made in Japan
i found the BCPR5ES they must be made in EU then, this makes thing clearer, thanks
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So cross reference those plugs to the ones I suggested, I bet they are the same
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Panic, every engine is different, just FYI if I run 5's/cold, 3 minutes of idleing means it won't start and throw the plugs away, install new ones, they load up and don't seem to recover if cleaned. Just my experiences, file it under hmmmmm.
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NGK-BCPR5ES cross references to Champion-RC12YC and RC14YC which are street plugs and recommended by AFR ( they actually recommended the RC9YC for street applications ) So your engine builder was on track
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