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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 02:55 AM
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Ijust installed a new temp. guage on my 78. The instrument cluster sat on the bench for about a month waiting for the new guage to come. I forgot to take pictures of the back of the guage cluster and I can't remember how the guage was hooked up. There is a small piece of white plastic or maybe it's porcelon. Does it go horizontally or vertically accross the back of the guage. I can't find a picture in any of my manuals. Thanks Bob
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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The "porcelain" is a resistor, it matches the resistance of the gauge to the temperature sending unit. It mounts horizontally between the 3:00 and 9:00 terminals on the gauge. If you installed a new temperature sending unit or a new gauge you may have to change the value of the resistor to make the gauge read accurately.

I struggled with my gauges and sending units for a long time thinking I had bad gauges/units, it turns out that they were mis-matched. I ended up substituting resistors from another used gauge cluster. The resistor that worked best for me was 5 ohms lower in value. I checked the temps with an infra-red temp. gun to verify the accuracy of the gauge. It was trial and error, but persistence paid off. Good luck with your gauge.

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This is a late model C-3 (plastic housing) gauge cluster. I have pulled back the mylar printed circuit to expose the resistor. Note that there is a color code on the resistor. You may want to substitute a resistor of a higher or lower value depending on your results.



This is an early model C-3 (metal housing) gauge cluster. The resistors are mostly vertical.



Here you can see the other resistor color codes through the mylar on the other gauges (plastic housing).



One other very important item of interest. DO NOT SUBSTITUTE THE LITTLE STAMPED STEEL NUTS on the mylar circuit board. These stamped nuts have a specific resistance, or level of conductivity. Substituting new hardware may change the resistance values and throw off your gauge readings (ask me how I know...).

I hope this helps!
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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I had the same problem on my 72 big block, purchased a correct sending unit from Electric Limited www.lectriclimited.com and problem resloved.
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I did the same, purchased the sending unit from lectric unlimited, but still had to substitute the resistors.
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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Thanks for everyones help. I checked the blue labeled resistor on back of temp gauge with a Ohm meter and no continuity. Where do I get a new one. Thanks Bob.
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Bob, was your gauge reading all over the place or sort of not reading at all? I know my temp gauge has power, but the temp never really comes up. I replaced the sending unit with an auto parts store one with no change. I'm curious as to where others stand in relation to my problem before I start chasing gremlins.
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Originally Posted by Rclarendon
Thanks for everyones help. I checked the blue labeled resistor on back of temp gauge with a Ohm meter and no continuity. Where do I get a new one. Thanks Bob.
If I remember correctly, the blue one is 85 or 90 ohms. Radio Shack will have resistors, or you can get used (original) ones. Try going up or down 5 ohms at a time until you get it dialed in. I lowered resistance by 5 ohms and got a much closer temp. gauge reading.

I bought a used panel off of the 'net for parts. I got a good deal, seeing as how it came with all gauges, a clock, resistors, bulbs etc...
I was able to substitute parts on several occasions to get all my gauges working.
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Bob, was your gauge reading all over the place or sort of not reading at all? I know my temp gauge has power, but the temp never really comes up. I replaced the sending unit with an auto parts store one with no change. I'm curious as to where others stand in relation to my problem before I start chasing gremlins.
The resistance of the temp. gauge and the sending unit must be matched. Today's over the counter temp. sending units are not matched to our old style gauges. First start with an Infra Red temp. sensing gun to confirm your actual engine temps, then start troubleshooting from there.
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