Just listening in for the direct replacement talk. 
200r4
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Drifting
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200r4
Is the 200R4 is a direct replacement for a turbo 400?? What if any mod will need to be done?
What is a 200R4 core worth? The add say that it is a "GOOD USED CORE".
I got the seller down to $200. I will be doing the re-build myself.
Thanks
Bill
What is a 200R4 core worth? The add say that it is a "GOOD USED CORE".
I got the seller down to $200. I will be doing the re-build myself.
Thanks
Bill
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200 bucks is about the most I would spend on a core. Alot of the "U-Pull-it yards sell them for $75, but you would have to pull it and the pan would likely have a poke hole in it. That makes a core( already pulled) worth $150 or so in my opinion.
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From: Chattanooga TN
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From: Columbia Missouri
Originally Posted by markdtn
Look on www.car-part.com I think you can do way better than $200 on a core.
Yep, I got a rebuilt one for $250. I've seen other rebuilt 200s for $500 and $600.
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From: San Diego - Deep Within The State of CONFUSION!
Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Yep, I got a rebuilt one for $250. I've seen other rebuilt 200s for $500 and $600.
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From: Columbia Missouri
Originally Posted by SanDiegoPaul
Why are they so much cheaper than a 700R4?
I think because the trend has not caught on yet that they have advantages over a 700 depending on the application.
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From: San Diego - Deep Within The State of CONFUSION!
Originally Posted by Durango_boy
I think because the trend has not caught on yet that they have advantages over a 700 depending on the application.
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Had a 700 witch was going on its 4th 3/4 clutch pack in there, and I decided it was time to try a 200 4r....so I built one up...cost me a total of 450 bux, with new converter 100 bux, and front pump 130 bux ten vane brand new...., and ~80 bux for Trans Go shift kit.....another 60 bux for the core from a core dealer here in town.....they are not worth shipping....
as for the fit in my '72 here, I had to redrill the cross support as it's about 1/2 inch longer to the mount than the holes in the support were, looked like it would fit....but NO....
anyway, I have not had time/energy to get jack done on the car this week....shame really as I would much rather been doing THAT than working....oh well....
as for the fit in my '72 here, I had to redrill the cross support as it's about 1/2 inch longer to the mount than the holes in the support were, looked like it would fit....but NO....
anyway, I have not had time/energy to get jack done on the car this week....shame really as I would much rather been doing THAT than working....oh well....
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From: Mo
I really think the 200r4 is the better tranny than a 700r,the best advantage is the non electric overdrive in the 200,I eas going to put a 200r in my old pro street car but with a 706 was kinda leary,so I went 4l80e.
There's a few ls1 camaros around town with 200r's running mid 8's.
There's a few ls1 camaros around town with 200r's running mid 8's.
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From: Chattanooga TN
Originally Posted by l88rocket
I really think the 200r4 is the better tranny than a 700r,the best advantage is the non electric overdrive in the 200,I eas going to put a 200r in my old pro street car but with a 706 was kinda leary,so I went 4l80e.
There's a few ls1 camaros around town with 200r's running mid 8's.
There's a few ls1 camaros around town with 200r's running mid 8's.
4L60E has electric overdrive, but that is not exactly apples to apples comparison.
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From: Columbia Missouri
Originally Posted by markdtn
What non-electric overdrive? Both 200R4 and 700R4 have electric torque converter lockup. Neither require electric to go into overdrive (4th gear).
4L60E has electric overdrive, but that is not exactly apples to apples comparison.
4L60E has electric overdrive, but that is not exactly apples to apples comparison.
Speaking of that...I need to consider a torque converter for my setup, and I need to know any details about my lockup. Will I have to have a switch or rely solely it?
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From: Chattanooga TN
Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Speaking of that...I need to consider a torque converter for my setup, and I need to know any details about my lockup. Will I have to have a switch or rely solely it?
If you don't, either get a kit from Painless, Howell, Street and Performance, etc. that locks based on vacuum and being in 4th gear OR just put a toggle switch on it and remember to lock/unlock it.
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From: Columbia Missouri
Originally Posted by markdtn
If you convert to FI, let the ECM/PCM lock it assuming you keep a Vehicle speed sensor.
Where is that located? I have a Gen1 block to put this LT1 manifold on. Isn't the VSS the crank speed sensor? I thought that was in the LT1 block itself.
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From: Mo
Originally Posted by markdtn
What non-electric overdrive? Both 200R4 and 700R4 have electric torque converter lockup. Neither require electric to go into overdrive (4th gear).
4L60E has electric overdrive, but that is not exactly apples to apples comparison.
4L60E has electric overdrive, but that is not exactly apples to apples comparison.
Thats what I thing about was not having to have a pcm to run the tranny.
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From: Mo
Originally Posted by Durango_boy
I wonder how much a build like that would cost...allowing for that kind of HP.
When I was looking for one I called a few places I seen some magazines and it was around 3k for a "bulletproof" one good for a 1000hp.
