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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Greetings, today I painted my 1967 Olds. I know this is the Corvette forum, however, after I finish the Olds, I want to paint my "78 C-3. My problem is, after preparing my car and spraying the primer, I then shot the base coat. (I'm using the bc/cc method). After just a few minutes the base coat started to spider-web, for lack of a better explanation. I'm painting the car in Charlotte, NC. and today the temp was around 70 degrees, with relativly low humidity. I shot the base coat around twenty minutes after shoting the primer. Does anyone have an idea as to what I did wrong, and what can I do to correct the problem. Thanks in advance for any help.

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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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It looks like it is lifting. What kind of primer/sealer did you use?
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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John, thanks for your reply. I used NAPA 1K waterborne primer sealer. I also used NAPA basecoat. I'm thinking I applied the paint too soon after the primer.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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you have some sort of compatability issue.... or it could be time related .....is all of your primer and paint and reducers from the same manufacture and are they all using the same reducers?
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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I have painted for 38 years and after retirement gave it up for a while.
One thing I have learned in the last 5 years is do not mix brands. Go by
the instructions before changing mixing percentages and pressures.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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was the car down to metal or sanded old finish only?
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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If you used a water borne primer -sealer and only left it flash for 20 minutes I would say the sealer was still quite wet and you now have a lifting problem. Most water borne products need a lot of air flow and some time to flash off the liquids before top coating. I'm not sure why your supplier reccommended a water based sealer. I sell paint for a living and I haven't sold any water based products unless there is a compatability problem with the substrate. Most of the time a solvent based sealer is faster and more user friendly.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 05:14 AM
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Guys, thanks for the responses. All the painting supplies were from the same manufacuturer, so I'm thinking I just did not let it set up enough. The next question is, what can I do about it? Thanks again for the replys.
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sand it off............do not skimp on this or it will haunt you down the road......
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Yes you will need to remove all of the wrinkled sealer and paint.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Thanks for all the advise. Since I bought the paint and primer at the same place (NAPA) and it seems to be compatible, I'm guessing I did not let it fash long enough. I'll need to go back and re sand and re paint. I'm not looking forward to all the work because along with the sanding is re cleaning and re taping, but I'm hoping the results will be worth it. This is good practice for my "78 that I hope to paint in the spring. Thanks again for the advice.
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