balancer install question
Race Director
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From: Forked River NJ
If it is bottomed out against the crank gear it will go no further. Did you compare the old vs the new to see if it was the same. It looks pretty close to what mine looks like. I'll go take a look at mine and see.
Yes mine is in closer than that. It looks like it needs to go on more.
Yes mine is in closer than that. It looks like it needs to go on more.
Last edited by Gordonm; Nov 12, 2006 at 12:53 PM.
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Drifting
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balancer update
well i went back out and pulled the new one off
so i could measure how much further i needed to go.
found out i had just under 1/4 inch.
i marked the inside of the new balancer so i would know
where i needed to be with it on.
i took my nifty proform balancer install tool and tried again
with about 1/8 inch to go
this happened.
you can guess where the other end was. 
vacuuming SOB, mother vacuuming proform piece of vacuuming crap.
there is a blue vacuuming streak hanging over central NJ as i type this.
needless to say luck or Karma was on my side for this one.
im thinking OK i now have to figure out how to drill this SOB out without
removing the crank if thats possible.
i stuck my pinky in the end of the crank and could feel a tip of metal that was on an angle on the broken piece. i got my finger nail on it and
gave it a turn and to my
it spun so after 5 minutes of turning
i now have this
sometimes its better to be lucky than good.
now i need another balancer install tool but hopefully one that is
made much better.
so i could measure how much further i needed to go.
found out i had just under 1/4 inch.
i marked the inside of the new balancer so i would know
where i needed to be with it on.
i took my nifty proform balancer install tool and tried again
with about 1/8 inch to go
this happened.
you can guess where the other end was.
vacuuming SOB, mother vacuuming proform piece of vacuuming crap.
there is a blue vacuuming streak hanging over central NJ as i type this.
needless to say luck or Karma was on my side for this one.
im thinking OK i now have to figure out how to drill this SOB out without
removing the crank if thats possible.
i stuck my pinky in the end of the crank and could feel a tip of metal that was on an angle on the broken piece. i got my finger nail on it and
gave it a turn and to my
it spun so after 5 minutes of turningi now have this
sometimes its better to be lucky than good.
now i need another balancer install tool but hopefully one that is
made much better.
Race Director
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 19,610
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From: Forked River NJ
That sucks. At least it came out pretty easy. Make sure the crank and the inside of the balancer are clean and burr free. Mine went on quite easily with the tool you are using. I did not have to apply much pressure. I was surprised when mine stopped as it was going on with little trouble. Of course mine was on the engine stand also.
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Drifting
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i cleaned up the snout of the crank
and the inside of the new balancer
with emory cloth to make sure there
werent burs that would hang it up.
where the tool is concerned i e-mailed
proform regarding it, claim is they dont have any
kind of warranty on this made in taiwan
piece of crap.
so i was nice in my e-mail and told them this thing
should have been at least grade 8 material for a job
like this.
will post their response once i get it.
so this is where i sit right now. i wanted to have
the front of the engine back together yesterday
but once that thing snapped it just took all the
get up and go right out of me
and the inside of the new balancer
with emory cloth to make sure there
werent burs that would hang it up.
where the tool is concerned i e-mailed
proform regarding it, claim is they dont have any
kind of warranty on this made in taiwan
piece of crap.
so i was nice in my e-mail and told them this thing
should have been at least grade 8 material for a job
like this.
will post their response once i get it.
so this is where i sit right now. i wanted to have
the front of the engine back together yesterday
but once that thing snapped it just took all the
get up and go right out of me
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Drifting
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Gordon,
thats exactly what i did, just got back from auto zone
borrowed their universal balancer install kit.
its free to use for a deposit of $35 and i have,
get this "3 months to bring it back"
i said 3 months? your gonna have it back tomorrow
hopefully this is better quality than proforms
thats exactly what i did, just got back from auto zone
borrowed their universal balancer install kit.
its free to use for a deposit of $35 and i have,
get this "3 months to bring it back"
i said 3 months? your gonna have it back tomorrow
hopefully this is better quality than proforms
Last edited by 1Z87L8; Nov 13, 2006 at 01:04 PM.
Safety Car
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From: Carbondale Pa.
It sucks when you take the time and $$$ to get the right tools and they break and then you find out that they are not guaranteed/warranteed, Good luck with the Autozone loaner. Peace,,,Moosie 
BTW: been meaning to tell you that you have a very nice looking dog, Dobies are cool.
BTW: been meaning to tell you that you have a very nice looking dog, Dobies are cool.
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From: Wildwood IL
Originally Posted by 1Z87L8
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Eddie
Le Mans Master
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From: Unreconstructed, South Carolina
Had the same deal with a proform ... I griped loud enough that they sent me a new one ... I use it as a loaner ... I bought & use a good tool from BHJ.
Suggest you take a CLOSE look at both keyways & key ... a very slight chamfer at edges of keyways & key may help ... any burrs will likely freeze it & bust all but best tools ... ensure key is fully-seated in keyway and does not roll up in rear as snout slides onto front of key.
That pic busted damper ... in background is Helen Mirren ... SUPER in latest installment (7) of Prime Suspect crime drama movie on ETV ... PS 7 premiered last nite. Truly a thinking persons' cop show.
Suggest you take a CLOSE look at both keyways & key ... a very slight chamfer at edges of keyways & key may help ... any burrs will likely freeze it & bust all but best tools ... ensure key is fully-seated in keyway and does not roll up in rear as snout slides onto front of key.
That pic busted damper ... in background is Helen Mirren ... SUPER in latest installment (7) of Prime Suspect crime drama movie on ETV ... PS 7 premiered last nite. Truly a thinking persons' cop show.
Last edited by jackson; Nov 13, 2006 at 12:19 PM.
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Drifting
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Originally Posted by Edzred72
EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME LAST WEEK!!! Proform JUNK!! But...it happened because you (and me), let the threads bottom out in the snout. The directions clearly state NOT TO!! No matter which installer you use... you should snug it up on the snout, then back it out a bit. While holding the very end of the tool with a box wrench, you now turn the bearing nut with another wrench being carefull not to let it tighten on the snout. I threw my Proform away and bought a Moroso installer. NICE!!!
Eddie
Eddie
did not include any directions what so ever on its use.
in fact i just looked at this loaner again and there are
no directions with it either
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Drifting
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Originally Posted by jackson
That pic busted damper ... in background is Helen Mirren ... SUPER in latest installment (7) of Prime Suspect crime drama movie on ETV ... PS 7 premiered last nite. Truly a thinking persons' cop show.
i walked in the house and my wife said"you are not setting that thing on my kitchen table"
so i grabbed a stack of the sunday inserts and there you have it.
