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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Need to replace the diode trio in my alternator. Can any provide instructions? Are there any trick to disassembly/assembly of the alternator?
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Mark the housing halves before taking them apart or you'll be clocking them later on for the proper orientation

When you're in there replace the bearings

Check the contact ring for excessive wear

When putting back together, keep the brushes in place with pieces of steel wire, there are little holes in the brush guides and the back housing for this purpose
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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And where can I buy the diode trio?
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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It's really pretty easy except for the brushes. Mark the two half’s so they go back in the same position, check the other components while you have it apart! When everything looks good just install the brushes back in there holder and use a straightened out paper clip to retain the brushes during the reassemble, you’ll see a hole in the brush holder were the paper clip will fit.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Try Auto Zone or Napa.
But why do you think the pack is out? Most of the time the regulator or brushes will fail first. Also it is not that much for a reman alternator. Is there a reason you do not just replace it?
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You can ohm out the diodes with a multimeter set to diode check. Must be done with the trio not connected to the field coil, and ONE diode at a time. Lift the tabs a little.

Hi resistance one way, reverse the leads and read 500-1000 ohms.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Try Auto Zone or Napa.
But why do you think the pack is out? Most of the time the regulator or brushes will fail first. Also it is not that much for a reman alternator. Is there a reason you do not just replace it?
It's the original alternator and my gen light has been on and the battery and alternator check out fine on the meter.
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OK, guys, first off, all GM alts are Delta wound...so therefore the outputs supplying the actual power are passing through 6 diodes, not just 3, and the field is floating at a nominal 6-7 volts.....the trio everyone referrs to is off the positive side of the delta....running parallel with the main power ones, and feeds the regulator...I dunno why it is that way, just is/was....

the main diode stack is in a fairly large heat sink, and the early alts had diodes we can actually see, if familiar with electronics....

starting early '70's all that changed, and the diodes were no longer that apparent, to a geek...they are, but not the typical homeowner/mechanic....
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Originally Posted by Vettkeeper
It's really pretty easy except for the brushes. Mark the two half’s so they go back in the same position, check the other components while you have it apart! When everything looks good just install the brushes back in there holder and use a straightened out paper clip to retain the brushes during the reassemble, you’ll see a hole in the brush holder were the paper clip will fit.
I found this was the only tricky part when I put the chrome housing on the alt guts...be patient and don't get frustrated...it may take a couple tries to get the brushes in, but you'll get it...
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My suggestion would be to buy a reman from one of the major parts houses. At Advance they're around $40 and come with a lifetime warranty. If you have original alt., take it apart and swap the half that has the casting numbers with that of the reman. Then use this old alt as your core. You then end up with a completely remanufactured alt. with a lifetime warranty which reflects the correct casting numbers. I would not mess around spending as much or more in parts and rebuilding your old one yourself. As a side note, you may want to paint your new one with alt. type paint so that that both pieces match. Just my 2 cents.

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Thanks guys....The diodes are cheap, so i will give it a try. If it doesn't work I will try something else.
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