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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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Hi,

Just bought this '69 vert and headlights quit on the way home. the interior lights (and headlights) just flash every 10 seconds. Battery died as well. Is my alternator shot, or something else?

Every helpful piece of information is greatly appreciated.

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VettePekka
Hi,

Just bought this '69 vert and headlights quit on the way home. the interior lights (and headlights) just flash every 10 seconds. Battery died as well. Is my alternator shot, or something else?

Every helpful piece of information is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

pete

Sounds like a symptom of several things. First check the battery, for 12V and check the connections. Make sure they are solid and free from corrosion.

Then, if the car runs, get it to an Oreilly where they can test both the battery and alternator under a load. That's the best way to know if either is the problem.

Sometimes an alternator can have a diminished ability to charge or keep up. If the battery is dead, your alt me not be able to supply your electrical system with it's demands being that your lights were on and draining the battery.

Also, check you coil for 12V, and make sure it's grounded properly.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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sounds like alternator trouble on first thought, put a meter on it to check output while running
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Keep in mind when testing the alt...you'll hope to see 14+ volts. It'll help if you turn some things on when it's running. Lights...blower fan...and radio.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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I just replaced my alternator this weekend. Hooked up a volt meter to the battery to determine the problem. First problem was a dead battery. It read 2.3 volts. Took the battery back to Advance and they charged it back up while I ate wings and drank beer. With a freshly charged battery I hooked up the voltmeter again and ran the car and had 12 volts, turned on the headlights and then the brights and watched the meter drop into the 11's and continue falling. Got a rebuilt alternator from NAPA and now have 14volts. If you don't have a volt meter, you can do it the bubba way and start the car and disconnect the battery. If the engine dies, you need an alternator.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Green73
If the engine dies, you need an alternator.

I think that is true of an older Vette, but some cars will automatically kill themselves if the battery is disconnected. Should work in this case though.
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If they only flash every few minutes or so it sounds like a circuit breaker is popping and resetting. Is that whats going on?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SIXFOOTER
If they only flash every few minutes or so it sounds like a circuit breaker is popping and resetting. Is that whats going on?
Check the headlamp wiring for a short. The headlamp switch has an internal circuit breaker.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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That Bubba method sounds like a good starting point...will hopefully have time to look into it this weekend.

Any additional good tips and tricks?

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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by VettePekka
...Any additional good tips and tricks?...
Got a fire extinguisher handy? Unless I miss my guess, you've got a bad harness ground (the Good), a short (the Bad), and a possible fire situation (the Ugly).

Careful.
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All true. Best way to troubleshoot this is unplug the headlights and interior light timer, then turn on the lights and check for voltage at the headlight harness. If it works at that point put the circuit back together one piece at a time.
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Originally Posted by big_G
Check the headlamp wiring for a short. The headlamp switch has an internal circuit breaker.
Yep, the headlight switch has a thermal circuit breaker. You have a short circuit in the HL circuit.

It's not "fused", so you won't lose your lights completely. The breaker heats up....breaks the circuit .....it cools down.....completes the circuit.

That's why the lights flash. The breaker is within the HL switch. Chuck
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Originally Posted by Chuck Gongloff
Yep, the headlight switch has a thermal circuit breaker. You have a short circuit in the HL circuit.

It's not "fused", so you won't lose your lights completely. The breaker heats up....breaks the circuit .....it cools down.....completes the circuit.

That's why the lights flash. The breaker is within the HL switch. Chuck

That I didn't know. Good job bud...schooled a few minds with that one.
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Thank y'all for your help. The culprit ended up being a broken wire, melted wires, short and bad ground connections.
No flames, which is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by VettePekka
Thank y'all for your help. The culprit ended up being a broken wire, melted wires, short and bad ground connections.
No flames, which is a good thing.

Cheers,

pete

Glad you figured it out. See us whenever you need more help. Latah.
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